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matthewfenn
 member, 376 posts
 www.nj-pbem.com
 Northern Journey PBeM DM
Tue 8 Sep 2015
at 08:32
 msg #211
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
In reply to Skald (msg # 209):

Ah yes, I'd forgotten about grids...  They are rather large though...

+---+---+---+
|   |   |   |
+---+---+---+
|   |=Me|   |
+---+---+---+
|   |   |   |
+---+---+---+
=
   
 Me 
   
Would it be possible to make smaller grids?
eg:
   
 i 
   

Skald
 moderator, 656 posts
 Whatever it is,
 I'm against it
Tue 8 Sep 2015
at 12:48
 msg #212
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
... change your zoom setting on your Browser ? <grrrrins>

Seriously, I don't think there is - that's the minimum space to draw the vertical:

+
|
+

Hex ... there's a grid in the ASCII maps thread in Heaven which might serve ?

link to a message in another game
jase
 admin, 3495 posts
 Cogito, ergo procuro.
 Carpe stultus!
Tue 8 Sep 2015
at 15:07
admin post | [quote] | [reply] | msg #213
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
You can size grids, check the help in how to do it.
matthewfenn
 member, 377 posts
 www.nj-pbem.com
 Northern Journey PBeM DM
Tue 8 Sep 2015
at 17:02
 msg #214
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
Ah...  Just found it in the help...  (/help/?t=faqs)  Thanks Jase!
Small (size 1) grid:
A 
 B


Default (size 2) grid:

A 
 B

Size 3
A 
 B
Size 4
A 
 B
Largest (size 5) grid:
A 
 B

Skald
 moderator, 657 posts
 Whatever it is,
 I'm against it
Wed 9 Sep 2015
at 12:48
 msg #215
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
There you go ... I learned sumfin' new as well.   Clever syntax to get that size 1 grid in !  :>
Escribblings
 member, 7 posts
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 01:01
 msg #216
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
jase:
Another addition:  We can now set the alignment of a column with the divider row (the one with all the dashes).  If you don't want the bolded/emphasised header row then just start the table with the divider row (even though it's then no longer actually dividing anything).

| Header 1.1      | Header 1.2 | Header 1.3   | 1.4  |50%
|<50%-------------|--------25%>|-----^--------|10%---|
|Header 2.1       | Cell 2.2   |<Cell 2.3     |
|2.3 Cell 3.1                  | Cell 3.3     |< 3.4 |
                               |1.3 Cell\n4.3 |^ 4.4 |
                                              |
| 6.1             | 6.2                       | 6.4

Header 1.1Header 1.2Header 1.31.4
Header 2.1Cell 2.2Cell 2.3 
Cell 3.1Cell 3.33.4
Cell
4.3		4.4
 
6.16.26.4

Note that when you're doing column span, the alignment might not turn up how you expect it (depending upon whether you focus on where the column starts or where it finishes).  You may want/expect cell 3.1 to be right aligned, but it starts at column 1, so it gets the alignment from there.  You can override the alignment of individual cells (see cell 2.3 as an example).

Widths can also be set with the divider row.  The divider row can only have pipes (|), dashes and the alignment codes and width (which means even spaces aren't allowed).  It doesn't actually matter whre you put the codes in between the pipes, as illustrated in the example.

Unless their alignment is set within the cell or via the whole column, table data (td) are left aligned, table headers (th) are centre aligned.  Not sure if that's how it should be by default..?

I think I should stop fiddling with this now, it's getting to be a massive routine.



Sorry to raise an old thread, but I have 2 issues, firstly relating to the above.

I have tried to determine the %age widths by putting the figures in the divider row as shown above, but when I do, it doesn't display properly.

instead of


.|!4 Basic Information                                                                   |100%
.|20%= Character Name  |30% Balik Giantborne |20%= Height    |30% 7’10”                  |
.|= Player Name        | Jonathan Bond       |= Weight       | 295 lbs                   |
.|= Character Race     | Goliath             |= Eyes         | Green                     |
.|= Alignment          | Chaotic Good        |= Hair         | Bald                      |
.|= Deity              | Mordain             |= Size         | Medium                    |

.|!4 Class, Level & Experience                                                           |100%
.|20%= Primary Class   |30% Barbarian        |20%= Level     |30% 5                      |
.|= Multiclass 1       | -                   |= Level        | -                         |
.|= Experience Points  | 12,150              |= Total Level  | 5                         |
.|= Next Level At      | 14,000              |= Proficiency  | +3                        |
.|= Max Health         | 60                  |= Initiative   | +3                        |
.|= Current Health     | 40                  |= Armour Class | 17                        |
.|= Passive Perception | 14                  |= Speed        | 40' (30' in Heavy Armour) |


giving


Basic Information
Character NameBalik GiantborneHeight7’10”
Player NameJonathan BondWeight295 lbs
Character RaceGoliathEyesGreen
AlignmentChaotic GoodHairBald
DeityMordainSizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel5
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points12,150Total Level5
Next Level At14,000Proficiency+3
Max Health60Initiative+3
Current Health40Armour Class17
Passive Perception14Speed40' (30' in Heavy Armour)


I get:


.|4 Basic Information                                                                   |100%
.|20%------------------|30%------------------|20%------------|30%------------------------|
.|= Character Name     | Balik Giantborne    |= Height       | 7’10”                     |
.|= Player Name        | Jonathan Bond       |= Weight       | 295 lbs                   |
.|= Character Race     | Goliath             |= Eyes         | Green                     |
.|= Alignment          | Chaotic Good        |= Hair         | Bald                      |
.|= Deity              | Mordain             |= Size         | Medium                    |

.|4 Class, Level & Experience                                                           |100%
.|20%------------------|30%------------------|20%------------|30%------------------------|
.|= Primary Class      | Barbarian           |= Level        | 5                         |
.|= Multiclass 1       | -                   |= Level        | -                         |
.|= Experience Points  | 12,150              |= Total Level  | 5                         |
.|= Next Level At      | 14,000              |= Proficiency  | +3                        |
.|= Max Health         | 60                  |= Initiative   | +3                        |
.|= Current Health     | 40                  |= Armour Class | 17                        |
.|= Passive Perception | 14                  |= Speed        | 40' (30' in Heavy Armour) |


giving


Basic Information
Character NameBalik GiantborneHeight7’10”
Player NameJonathan BondWeight295 lbs
Character RaceGoliathEyesGreen
AlignmentChaotic GoodHairBald
DeityMordainSizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel5
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points12,150Total Level5
Next Level At14,000Proficiency+3
Max Health60Initiative+3
Current Health40Armour Class17
Passive Perception14Speed40' (30' in Heavy Armour)


Secondly, is there anyway to set a fixed rather than percentage width for the table.  I don't mind %age widths for the columns, but I'm trying to prevent a 100% width table from continously expanding without having to resort to newline characters to break up larger paragraphs.

With normal tables I do

<table width="600">, but that doesn't work with your quick tables and neither can I mix the 2 syntaxes.
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1262 posts
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 02:04
 msg #217
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
To expand on that, you might consider allowing a table width to be set by percentage of whatever width the post as a whole has, so you might set a table to be half the width of the post, or 150% (in which case it acts like an oversized picture and you neec to scroll, or the page resizes to match width. Whichever.)

That way you could have a couple tables that fit side by side under a wide header table, or similar scenerios.

Not sure how well that'd work though.
Escribblings
 member, 8 posts
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 20:11
 msg #218
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
DarkLightHitomi:
To expand on that, you might consider allowing a table width to be set by percentage of whatever width the post as a whole has, so you might set a table to be half the width of the post, or 150% (in which case it acts like an oversized picture and you neec to scroll, or the page resizes to match width. Whichever.)

That way you could have a couple tables that fit side by side under a wide header table, or similar scenerios.

Not sure how well that'd work though.

You mean like

.|! This |25%
.||

This

.|! This |50%
.||

This

.|! This |75%
.||

This

.|! Or This |100%
.||

Or This


The only way to do tables side by side would be to make them into 1 table as far as I can tell, as this site doesn't support nested tables either.

The problem with specifying the width of the entire table as a percentage of the post is it is dependent on the viewer's browser size.

I want to specify a fixed width not only to prevent it continually expanding but also continually contracting too.
LonePaladin
 member, 685 posts
 Creator of HeroForge
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 20:34
 msg #219
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
Escribblings:
The problem with specifying the width of the entire table as a percentage of the post is it is dependent on the viewer's browser size.

I want to specify a fixed width not only to prevent it continually expanding but also continually contracting too.

What would happen if the table's established width exceeds the browser's? Say, if you set a table to be 1300px wide, but someone else sets their browser to only be 800px?
Escribblings
 member, 9 posts
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 22:15
 msg #220
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
In reply to LonePaladin (msg # 219):

You would have to scroll.

You can't do this with smart tables


<table width="3000">
  <tr>
    <th>
      This is 3000px wide
    </th>
  </tr>
</table>

This message was last edited by a moderator, as it was moot, at 23:22, Fri 19 Jan.

Escribblings
 member, 10 posts
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 23:27
 msg #221
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
Apologies
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1263 posts
Sun 21 Jan 2018
at 00:02
 msg #222
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.

Escribblings:
The problem with specifying the width of the entire table as a percentage of the post is it is dependent on the viewer's browser size.

I want to specify a fixed width not only to prevent it continually expanding but also continually contracting too.


Yea, and that is good. I was simply expanding on the idea (it would likely be easier to do both at once than separate, if there was a need anyway.).

LonePaladin:
What would happen if the table's established width exceeds the browser's? Say, if you set a table to be 1300px wide, but someone else sets their browser to only be 800px?



How can you set how wide the browser is set for? I haven't seen any way to do so.

Besides, only the new mobile site changes size near as I can tell.
LonePaladin
 member, 687 posts
 Creator of HeroForge
Sun 21 Jan 2018
at 04:07
 msg #223
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
DarkLightHitomi:
How can you set how wide the browser is set for? I haven't seen any way to do so.

Resize the window. Or have your display set to that resolution.

I'm just wanting to know what would be the expected result if a fixed-width Easy Table exceeded the browser's available space. Would it be shrunk to fit, or would the window gain a horizontal scroll bar?
Escribblings
 member, 11 posts
Sun 21 Jan 2018
at 11:12
 msg #224
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
LonePaladin:
DarkLightHitomi:
How can you set how wide the browser is set for? I haven't seen any way to do so.

Resize the window. Or have your display set to that resolution.

I'm just wanting to know what would be the expected result if a fixed-width Easy Table exceeded the browser's available space. Would it be shrunk to fit, or would the window gain a horizontal scroll bar?


Preview the code of the "working example" I posted above.

It broke the forum by making everyone scroll and I got modded for it.

But that does exactly what happens.  It's an extreme example, I would never create a table that wide, in fact I want to specify a table that is only 600px wide, which would only force horizontal scroll in the smallest of situations.  But the point it, I want to be able to create a fixed width table.

I can do this with normal tables, but not with easy tables.

If it's a case of code implementation, then I have a suggestion...

Currently a tables width is specified by the first row ending with |xxx%, where xxx is a value between 1 and 100.

To implement fixed widths, can I suggest that the first row end in |"xxx", where the xxx in this case refer to the size in pixels.

This could also be included in the column widths as well, but personally I am happy with percentage column widths, they're unlikely to change of the whole table has a fixed width.

To give you an idea, this is what I can achieve, and want to achieve, with the html style table code:

<small>
<table width="600">
  <tr>
    <th colspan="4">Basic Information</th>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td width=25%><b>Character Name</b></td>
    <td width=25%>Buran Bo</td>
    <td width=25%><b>Height</b></td>
    <td width=25%>6'5"</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Player Name</b></td>
    <td>Jonathan Bond</td>
    <td><b>Weight</b></td>
    <td>205 lbs</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Character Race</b></td>
    <td>Genasi (Air)</td>
    <td><b>Eyes</b></td>
    <td>Dark</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Alignment</b></td>
    <td>Chaotic Neutral</td>
    <td><b>Hair</b></td>
    <td>White</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Deity</b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td><b>Size</b></td>
    <td>Medium</td>
  </tr>
</table>
<table width=600>
  <tr>
    <th colspan="4">Class, Level & Experience</th>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td width=25%><b>Primary Class</b></td>
    <td width=25%>Barbarian</td>
    <td width=25%><b>Level</b></td>
    <td width=25%>4</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Multiclass 1</b></td>
    <td>-</td>
    <td><b>Level</b></td>
    <td>-</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Experience Points</b></td>
    <td>4,100</td>
    <td><b>Total Level</b></td>
    <td>4</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Next Level At</b></td>
    <td>6,500</td>
    <td><b>Proficiency</b></td>
    <td>+2</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Max Health</b></td>
    <td>38</td>
    <td><b>Initiative</b></td>
    <td>+1</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Current Health</b></td>
    <td>31</td>
    <td><b>Armour Class</b></td>
    <td>13</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>Passive Perception</b></td>
    <td>12</td>
    <td><b>Speed</b></td>
    <td>30'</td>
  </tr>
</table>
</small>


Basic Information
Character NameBuran BoHeight6'5"
Player NameJonathan BondWeight205 lbs
Character RaceGenasi (Air)EyesDark
AlignmentChaotic NeutralHairWhite
DeitySizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel4
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points4,100Total Level4
Next Level At6,500Proficiency+2
Max Health38Initiative+1
Current Health31Armour Class13
Passive Perception12Speed30'



And this is what I get using easy tables:


<small>
.|4! Basic Information                                             |100%
.|25%= Character Name. |25% Buran Bo     |25%= Height    |25% 6'5" |
.|= Player Name        | Jonathan Bond   |= Weight       |205 lbs  |
.|= Character Race     | Genasi (Air)    |= Eyes         | Dark    |
.|= Alignment          | Chaotic Neutral |= Hair         | White   |
.|= Deity              |                 |= Size         | Medium  |

.|4! Class, Level & Experience                                     |100%
.|25%= Primary Class   |25% Barbarian    |25%= Level     |25% 4    |
.|= Multiclass 1       | -               |= Level        | -       |
.|= Experience Points  | 4,100           |= Total Level  | 4       |
.|= Next Level At      | 6,500           |= Proficiency  | +2      |
.|= Max Health         | 38              |= Initiative   | +1      |
.|= Current Health     | 31              |= Armour Class | 13      |
.|= Passive Perception | 12              |= Speed        | 30'     |
</small>



Basic Information
Character Name.Buran BoHeight6'5"
Player NameJonathan BondWeightlbs
Character RaceGenasi (Air)EyesDark
AlignmentChaotic NeutralHairWhite
Deity SizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel4
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points4,100Total Level4
Next Level At6,500Proficiency+2
Max Health38Initiative+1
Current Health31Armour Class13
Passive Perception12Speed30'


As you can see, the code is much easier to maintain, especially for an ever evolving character sheet.  But without being able to specify a fixed width I cannot get the desired result.

This message was last edited by the user at 11:21, Sun 21 Jan.

DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1264 posts
Sun 21 Jan 2018
at 11:40
 msg #225
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
LonePaladin:
DarkLightHitomi:
How can you set how wide the browser is set for? I haven't seen any way to do so.

Resize the window. Or have your display set to that resolution.


Neither of those have any effect on the website width (I think it might affect the responsive site version, but I stay away from that, especially since I can't control how big it is, it shows up way too big. Seems to think I'm blind and need Big Fonts turned on. And that is all responsive sites, not just responsive rpol.).

This message was last edited by the user at 11:44, Sun 21 Jan.

Escribblings
 member, 14 posts
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 22:26
 msg #226
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
OK, so I don't know what I was doing wrong before, maybe I just didn't put spaces in the right place, but there is a workaround for what I want.

It's nested tables

This


<small>
.|4! Basic Information                                             |100%
.|25%= Character Name. |25% Buran Bo     |25%= Height    |25% 6'5" |
.|= Player Name        | Jonathan Bond   |= Weight       |205 lbs  |
.|= Character Race     | Genasi (Air)    |= Eyes         | Dark    |
.|= Alignment          | Chaotic Neutral |= Hair         | White   |
.|= Deity              |                 |= Size         | Medium  |

.|4! Class, Level & Experience                                     |100%
.|25%= Primary Class   |25% Barbarian    |25%= Level     |25% 4    |
.|= Multiclass 1       | -               |= Level        | -       |
.|= Experience Points  | 4,100           |= Total Level  | 4       |
.|= Next Level At      | 6,500           |= Proficiency  | +2      |
.|= Max Health         | 38              |= Initiative   | +1      |
.|= Current Health     | 31              |= Armour Class | 13      |
.|= Passive Perception | 12              |= Speed        | 30'     |
</small>


Gives this:


Basic Information
Character Name.Buran BoHeight6'5"
Player NameJonathan BondWeightlbs
Character RaceGenasi (Air)EyesDark
AlignmentChaotic NeutralHairWhite
Deity SizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel4
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points4,100Total Level4
Next Level At6,500Proficiency+2
Max Health38Initiative+1
Current Health31Armour Class13
Passive Perception12Speed30'


But THIS


<small>
<table width=500><tr><td>
.|4! Basic Information                                             |100%
.|25%= Character Name. |25% Buran Bo     |25%= Height    |25% 6'5" |
.|= Player Name        | Jonathan Bond   |= Weight       |205 lbs  |
.|= Character Race     | Genasi (Air)    |= Eyes         | Dark    |
.|= Alignment          | Chaotic Neutral |= Hair         | White   |
.|= Deity              |                 |= Size         | Medium  |

.|4! Class, Level & Experience                                     |100%
.|25%= Primary Class   |25% Barbarian    |25%= Level     |25% 4    |
.|= Multiclass 1       | -               |= Level        | -       |
.|= Experience Points  | 4,100           |= Total Level  | 4       |
.|= Next Level At      | 6,500           |= Proficiency  | +2      |
.|= Max Health         | 38              |= Initiative   | +1      |
.|= Current Health     | 31              |= Armour Class | 13      |
.|= Passive Perception | 12              |= Speed        | 30'     |
</td></tr></table>
</small>




Basic Information
Character Name.Buran BoHeight6'5"
Player NameJonathan BondWeightlbs
Character RaceGenasi (Air)EyesDark
AlignmentChaotic NeutralHairWhite
Deity SizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel4
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points4,100Total Level4
Next Level At6,500Proficiency+2
Max Health38Initiative+1
Current Health31Armour Class13
Passive Perception12Speed30'



So apart from the extra table border (which I can live with) it gives the result I want.

But it would be nice to be able to do this natively in Smart Tables.
horus
 member, 392 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Tue 20 Feb 2018
at 00:35
 msg #227
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
Escribblings:
OK, so I don't know what I was doing wrong before, maybe I just didn't put spaces in the right place, but there is a workaround for what I want.

It's nested tables

{SNIPPAGE:  example of normal easy table and nested easy table for comparison - horus}

So apart from the extra table border (which I can live with) it gives the result I want.

But it would be nice to be able to do this natively in Smart Tables.


Still, that's a neat trick!  If I understand it aright, you basically wrap the Easy Table you want in a pre-sized HTML table, and everything scales relative to the wrapper table's width in pixels, is that right?

Thanks for sharing this technique.

I wonder, though, what is the advantage over (for instance):


<center>
|!< Name:    |<2 ???            |!< Class:  |<2 ???   |60%
|!< Clan:    |<2 ???            |!< Level:  |^2 1     |
|!< Faction: |<2 ???            |!< Temple: |<2       |
|!^ STR | ? |!^ DEX | ? |! CON^ | ? |
|!^ INT | ? |!^ PSY | ? |! CHA^ | ? |
|!^ HD  | ? |!^ HP  | ? |! AP^ | ? |
|!<4 Attack Damage | ? | ? |
|!2 Spells | | | | |
|! Ammunition ||! Rations ||! Light ||
|!>5 Encumberance ||
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | | |
|!4 Languages |!2 Spells |
| | |
</center>


which would yield:


Name:???Class:???
Clan:???Level:1
Faction:???Temple: 
STR?DEX?CON^?
INT?PSY?CHA^?
HD?HP?AP^?
Attack Damage??
Spells    
Ammunition Rations Light 
Encumberance 
      
      
      
      
LanguagesSpells
      

This message was last edited by the user at 01:10, Tue 20 Feb.

LonePaladin
 member, 701 posts
 Creator of HeroForge
Tue 20 Feb 2018
at 07:16
 msg #228
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
horus:
I wonder, though, what is the advantage over (for instance):

Using the table as a wrapper lets you specify the entire table's width as a fixed amount. (Say, 500 pixels.) The percentage method makes the table resize its cells based on the width of the browser window, which may make some cells misbehave.
Escribblings
 member, 15 posts
Tue 20 Feb 2018
at 07:40
 msg #229
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
horus:
<snip>

I wonder, though, what is the advantage over (for instance):


Because, depending on resolution or window size, that could force cell contents to wrap and break the intended formatting.

I want my table to stay the same regardless.

This will mean that a window is forced to scroll if minimised, but the table format stays the same.

Un maximise your browser and play with resizing it, you might see what I mean.

Now I fully realise that tables, and HTML, in reality should not be used for formatting - however - this is RPoL, and it doesn't implement full CSS or HTML.
Escribblings
 member, 16 posts
Tue 20 Feb 2018
at 23:37
 msg #230
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.


Basic Information
Character Name.Buran BoHeight6'5"
Player NameJonathan BondWeightlbs
Character RaceGenasi (Air)EyesDark
AlignmentChaotic NeutralHairWhite
Deity SizeMedium

Class, Level & Experience
Primary ClassBarbarianLevel4
Multiclass 1-Level-
Experience Points4,100Total Level4
Next Level At6,500Proficiency+2
Max Health38Initiative+1
Current Health31Armour Class13
Passive Perception12Speed30'



Wow - it even allows to put 2 tables side by side
<small>
<table width=800><tr><td>
.|4! Basic Information                                             |100%
.|25%= Character Name. |25% Buran Bo     |25%= Height    |25% 6'5" |
.|= Player Name        | Jonathan Bond   |= Weight       |205 lbs  |
.|= Character Race     | Genasi (Air)    |= Eyes         | Dark    |
.|= Alignment          | Chaotic Neutral |= Hair         | White   |
.|= Deity              |                 |= Size         | Medium  |
</td>
<td>
.|4! Class, Level & Experience                                     |100%
.|25%= Primary Class   |25% Barbarian    |25%= Level     |25% 4    |
.|= Multiclass 1       | -               |= Level        | -       |
.|= Experience Points  | 4,100           |= Total Level  | 4       |
.|= Next Level At      | 6,500           |= Proficiency  | +2      |
.|= Max Health         | 38              |= Initiative   | +1      |
.|= Current Health     | 31              |= Armour Class | 13      |
.|= Passive Perception | 12              |= Speed        | 30'     |
</td></tr></table>
</small>

horus
 member, 395 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Wed 21 Feb 2018
at 01:28
 msg #231
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
Thanks for making it clear where the advantage lies.  The side-by-side trick is a neat technique, too.

I have a sandbox devoted to tips and tricks, and may do a write-up on this, crediting Escribblings and linking here, of course.

I may have to break out my old books on HTML again...  this is good stuff.
Escribblings
 member, 17 posts
Wed 21 Feb 2018
at 01:45
 msg #232
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
In reply to horus (msg # 231):

It is important to note, and this may be where I fell down before...

The smart table must be on a separate table top the td, a space is not enough to prevent it from breaking.

In theory, you should be able to put a grid or table in rows and columns...


12
34

12
34

12
34

12
34


Yup...

You'll need to quote the message for the code.  I'm on my phone and feeling lazy.
horus
 member, 396 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Wed 21 Feb 2018
at 03:14
 msg #233
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
In reply to Escribblings (msg # 232):

No problem.  Thanks for sharing what may become a frequently used technique on RPoL.
Aidhogan
 member, 73 posts
Mon 15 Oct 2018
at 18:01
 msg #234
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
I've been unable to find any documentation on vertical alignment in spanning cells.  <^> are good for x.1 cells, but is there an equivalent for 1.y?
Escribblings
 member, 19 posts
Tue 23 Oct 2018
at 06:40
 msg #235
Re: Easy Tables and Grids.
In reply to Aidhogan (msg # 234):

Good question...

I think they just align centrally.

The only way I've got around it is with Line breaks.

1LeftCentreRight
2Top


Middle

Bottom
3
4

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