In particular, I'm going to miss that the "Thread Details" information in Players Wanted (and similar folders) is not broken out into columns any more, where it was easy to just scan down a column of names to see GM names, as opposed to the just undifferentiated mush of information that makes up the Thread Details now.  Definitely way harder to read.  And I'm especially going to miss not having a post count displayed on the Players Wanted page, it was very useful to be able to distinguish at an intuitive glance whether a game was newly posted or whether it's been recruiting for 300 "bump" posts.

... poster child for feedback here.  Nobody ever noticed, or at least commented, that it was missing.  Have added it back in plus rearranged the layout a teensy bit.

That's awesome, thanks Jase!  :)

Though even better, would it be possible to break out the information in first line of each of the Thread Details into spacing that could be uniform between rows?  So like, instead of having each entry of the Thread Details formatted as:


... could they be separated out with uniform spacing like:


... so it would be like looking at separate columns of information?  That would make the page way easier to read.

Picking up on a couple of the issues raised:


I had the same problem ... Custom Themes in the new interface have a LOT more entries compared to the old site, so it loads what it can from your existing saved theme but any values that weren't present before will be blank.  To fix, just edit your custom theme and look for any labels coloured in red alongside an empty field and set a value.

The specific value you're after for the options you mention is the on/off toggle button selections, background on selected under Overall site settings.


I assume you're talking about the Cast List from a GM perspective ?  The most important information displayed on mouse-over is probably Groups ... if so, it's a LOT easier to go into the GM Menu instead of the Cast List then click on Edit Groups, to see all PC/NPC groups all at once (one extra click compared to old site, but you can update from the same screen if necessary).

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  :;chuckles::  wow?  i guess that could be classified as  a 'karen"...if the layer goes to a brand new site, they will have to learn'all new  everything"

 here?  all we have to learn  is where some things  goy moved to?  we are stepping onto a brand  new ship, that is   a class  higher then the one we sailed on before?  If  we ha da choice?  you bet i'd go back to the old one...but  i like this site, and  i am getting 'cozy' with   as i post

 I hope the player  is ok? because it sounds like . way deeper  issues  then the site move.

@Jase

It's a minor gripe, but I'm not super-thrilled with the fact that the sidebar ("this thread," "post a reply," "this forum," etc) shifts with the rest of the page. I haven't paid attention to it in games, but it's a bit disconcerting to watch it shift when I scroll down through notes. (That said, it's even larger in games, so I don't know if anything can be done - I'm not exactly the next Bill Musk or Elon Jobs or whatever.)

Not sure why you're surprised - we've been moderating out bad language in our public forums for about twenty years, and will continue to do so.

As for the new UI... I disliked it at first, so much so that I looked at it when it was first set up, then pretended it didn't exist for a couple of years.  Yes, I'm old, and I hate change.  But I'm getting used to the new look now.

Most of the site functions still work the same way at the user level - you click in the right place (all of which are marked) and something opens up so you can do the thing you want to do - it just looks different.

Biggest change for me is moderating: now I have to look where stuff is before I tell people how to find it... used to have it all memorised.
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In reply to Traveling Gamer (msg # 42):

Besides some initial scrolling as the header hides, it should remain static (along with the top navigation bar).

In reply to jase (msg # 46):

Respectfully, I think you are misunderstanding, as I believe Traveling Gamer is referring to precisely the fact that the position is sticky (similarly to the top navigation bar, it is vertically offset relative to its scrolling ancestor which in this case seems to be a container spanning the entire page minus the header; the exact opposite of static in this context). I'll piggyback off of this to say that on my laptop screen (1920x1080, firefox browser) the stickied sidebar is too tall for everything to be displayed simultaneously, so the 'Your account' menu only appears after I scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. Not a huge deal, as I don't anticipate I'll need to use the 'Your account' menu very often, but the behavior is a bit unfortunate.

The arrangement of the 'Your account' options is also different when viewing the home page or a board ('Relog' and 'Logout' appear at the bottom of the list; correct arrangement in my opinion) compared to viewing a thread ('Relog' and 'Logout' appear at the top of the list; wrong arrangement). I suspect this is just an oversight.

Edit: I also notice that it seems to be obscuring some text the Home | Forum | Top links at the bottom: https://i.imgur.com/AZhaiy1.png
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H'mm ... I confess don't know much about displays, but I'm running 1920 x 1080 resolution in a Firefox browser with some additional menu items that we mods get and my side bar is only about 75% of the way down the screen.   I'm on a 24" monitor on a PC, but I thought that the 1920 x 1080 resolution basically scales the display so you get the same area no matter what the screen size (it's just bigger on the PC/smaller on the laptop) ?

If my understanding is right, then just throwing out ideas here trying to explain it ... you're not running with a zoom > 100% OR any accessibility setting are you (Settings | Ease of Access | Change the size of apps and text on the main display) ?  Just a thought.

And since we're all guests in jase's virtual house, a timely reminder of the rules that govern all our Public Forums: /help/?t=faqs&page=pfrules

Apologies if this is not the appropriate thread for this. It is perhaps better served for the RPoL Development forum, but I figured I'd reply here since parts of my message pertained an earlier post in this thread.

I agree that monitor size shouldn't influence the amount of contents displayed, only the aspect ratio should. But just in case it does matter, I am on a 15" laptop. And zoom = 100%, so no problem there. I'm not able to locate the 'Ease of Access' setting you describe, but I don't remember tinkering with that when I constructed my custom themes for both the r.rpol (pre migration) and rpol (post migration) sites.

I should have specified, but this occurs for a game where I am GM, so that adds a few options to the 'This game' menu, which causes the issue. It looks to be about 60% percent for this specific thread, and neither does it seem to be a problem where I participate as a player.
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<grins> Probably should be in RPoL Development, but we want to resolve error so your constructive feedback helps with that and we're here now.  :>

That said, if anyone else does have errors, Gemcluster is correct - please post 'em in RPoL Development in the New site design thread link to a message in another game as that's where they should be and that's where jase'll go first.   And any suggestions for improvements, same forum link to another game, but please start a new thread for each suggestion.

Bear with my while I boot my ancient laptop to see if I can recreate ...

Respectfully, I'm also running a 1920x1080 resolution (using Chrome), and the full entire sidebar is viewable for me, even in games that have the Game Wiki link appear...so I think that what's at issue is perhaps browser-related and not RPoL-related.


I suspect that's on purpose. What's happening is that the 'This Forum/Game' block is replacing the 'Main Menu' block when you're actually viewing a Forum/Game. When on the main board there isn't a 'This Forum/Game' block available because you're not /in/ a forum. The location of the 'Your Account' block isn't actually changing. It's still in the secondary/tertiary (if your rMail indicator is up) position in both.

In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 52):


Yes, it seems like this is only a problem in games where I am GM. Although, I am not ruling out that the problem is related to my browser or specific set-up! :)


I am referring to the list of options within the block, not the block itself. It gets shuffled depending on whether you're viewing the main menu / a forum or a thread.
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In reply to Gemcluster (msg # 53):

Sorry, I should have clarified that I'm also a GM with the full-complete-all-the-options available sidebar for those where they're fitting for me. I'm still leaning towards browser!

...and you are 100% right on the list within the block. I'd never noticed that! My bad! :D

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In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 54):

Yes, it does seem to kind of be a problem with the browser, as the issue is raised when your window is short enough on the y-axis. I say kind of, becauise my configuration of Firefox is bog-standard, with one row for tabs, one for the search bar / options, and one for bookmarks. It does seem like getting rid of the bookmarks tab would grant enough space for it to work properly, but that is hardly an appropriate workaround :S

In reply to Gemcluster:

Well that was fun.  Yes, it took that long to boot up and get it to load what I wanted.  Laptop wasn't state of the art in 2007 when I got it and considerably less so now.  It's the backup device to my backup device for my PC, and since it won't run Windows 11, it only has to sit in the cupboard for another year before I'll grudgingly admit I'm never going to use it again.  :P

Max resolution available is 1280 x 800 and at that I do have to scroll right to the bottom to see the whole Your account block in the sidebar ... which suggests that at 1920 x 1080 there shouldn't be a problem.  But you've got one ...

... in Windows 10, try right clicking on the Start button, select Search option from the menu, type in "ease of access display settings" and see what you've got - default should be text set to minimum size and 'change the size of apps and text on the main display' should be at '100% (recommended)'.   Not sure where to find the same setting under Windows 11 or earlier versions/other OS but it'll be hiding somewhere.  :>

Edit: adding to Sunruaner's notes below - in a thread in a game I GM, in Firefox (this time on my PC at 1920 x 1080) the Your Account block just about fits when I'm at the very top of the screen - the Start a Game last option is slightly cut off, but I could still click on it (never have), but same mileage - whole sidebar top to bottom fits completely when I start scrolling down and it reverts to floating top menu.
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In reply to Gemcluster (msg # 56):

Hm. Dinking around, I did get my page to replicate SOME of that on Chrome, when I fully-maximized my browser (normally I have it windowed to about 3/4 of the monitor, so I can see a slice of what's running behind it down the lefthand side).

In a game thread, where I had the full slate of 4 GM options for 'This Thread' and 12 GM options for 'This Game' and then the 4 standard options for 'Your Account', it DID push the last two options for the Account section off the page...but only until I scrolled down one bump to knock the RPoL logo header off the screen (bringing the nav bar up to the top of the browser).

Still not as much pushed off as for you, I don't think, since you indicated that the entire Account section was knocked off instead of just half of it, and it never covered up the Home/Forum/Top links...but when fully-expanded it did knock off SOME. But I wouldn't consider it an issue in the case that presents for me, since it's really only apparent in game threads where I GM, and that one-notch bumpoff of the RPoL logo fixes it for me...so, not the same issue, alas.
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I just checked on my work laptop as well, same resolution, same screen size, same browser, same problem.


Windows 10, text is set to minimum on both PCs. Should be no issue there.

I've provided a screenshot of the issue, with some sensitive information blotted out (https://i.imgur.com/CpoKPlk.png). As you can see, the scroll bar is nearing the bottom and the 'Your account' block has yet to make its full appearance.


I don't consider this to be a particularly major issue in my case either, as I mentioned in my original post. Certainly not something the developer(s) should work up a sweat for!

Perhaps not major, but it's an oddity ... resolving this might help other users or indicate some other issue that needs fixing.  Or not - we won't know till we try.  :>

Now that is interesting.  Comparing your menu with mine and I notice immediately that your font is bigger.  We've ruled out Zoom and we've ruled out Ease of Access settings ... what else might cause that ?

Under Firefox Tools, Settings, General ... Language and Appearance ... Fonts, Advanced, you're not overriding the site fonts with your own choices are you ?

My settings shows:

Fonts for:    Latin

Proportional: Serif                       Size: 16
Serif:        Default (Times New Roman)
Sans-serif:   Default (Arial)
Monospace:    Courier New                 Size: 13

                             Minimum font size: None

And 'Allow pages to chose their own fonts, instead of our selections above' is ticked.