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Vents with allowed responses - 3.

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Piestar
member, 964 posts
once upon a time...
...there was a little pie
Wed 1 Sep 2021
at 01:41
  • msg #1930

Old friends

In reply to Brianna (msg # 1929):

That's an excellent idea.
phoenix9lives
member, 1069 posts
GENE POLICE!  YOU!
GET OUTTA THE POOL!
Wed 1 Sep 2021
at 01:50
  • msg #1931

Serfdom

In reply to Greymist (msg # 1928):

I'm only giving reasons or justifications they might use for not notifying someone.  Usually, I receive a note.  But, not everyone is going to be that courteous.
Vatticone
member, 28 posts
Thu 16 Sep 2021
at 17:37
  • msg #1932

Facebook Ban

Facebook just banned me for this comment: "Let's say you have a die, and I tell you that if you roll a 1, I will shoot you in the face. Would you rather have a 6-sided die or a 20-sided die? Would you rather have a 156-sided die or a 1,000,000-sided die?"

I was trying to illustrate that intentionally risking a small chance of death wasn't logical when the other option is a much, much smaller chance.  Apparently I was threatening violence. *facepalm*
GreenTongue
member, 1012 posts
Game Archaeologist
Thu 16 Sep 2021
at 17:46
  • msg #1933

Facebook Ban

In reply to Vatticone (msg # 1932):

Algorithms can't tell yet more and more they are making the decisions that used to require people.

We can hope that they will get better but where is the feedback required to do that?
Jarodemo
member, 947 posts
My hovercraft
is full of eels
Thu 16 Sep 2021
at 18:14
  • msg #1934

Facebook Ban

In reply to Vatticone (msg # 1932):

My missus got a temporary ban on Twitter when someone asked if they could steal a meme she had posted and she replied, “yeah, knock yourself out.” She got a suspension for promoting self-harm!

She appealed and a human did cancel the ban, but it was quite amusing for a short while.
Hunter
member, 1669 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Thu 16 Sep 2021
at 23:30
  • msg #1935

Facebook Ban

In reply to Jarodemo (msg # 1934):

Yup.   Like I really needed more reasons NOT to use social media.  -.-
Hunter
member, 1670 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 02:02
  • msg #1936

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

(Apologies for the double post)

I'm starting to feel like my time here is nearly done.   While tabletop has often been the only means of positive socialization; I'm been sensing lately that I've done all that I can (or are supposed to) here.   While I'm (still) doing surprising well, given my issues (specially Bipolar Depression and Asperger's) are slowly getting to the point of acting up with increasing frequency.

And while that's partially a vent; it's also a thank you for all the players, GMs, and staff that are here.  Take care everyone.   ^_^
Yaztromo
supporter, 451 posts
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 07:05
  • msg #1937

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Hunter (msg # 1936):

We can only keep fighting - best of luck!
Yaztromo
supporter, 452 posts
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 07:11
  • msg #1938

Technical questions

Why do the people that wants to pay for your very specialised, technical, professional services come to you asking to sign off directly to the conclusions that they made in their mind, instead of telling you want the problem is and asking what is the best technical solution for it?!?

You pay a lot of money and I'm here to solve your technical issue the best possible way, not to rubber stamp the (typically wrong, of course) solution that you thought up while daydreaming!!! Let me do my job!!!
This way I spend more time showing you that your "technical" solution was wrong than actually solving the problem the best possible way (that is actually what you're supposed to pay for)...
Jarodemo
member, 948 posts
My hovercraft
is full of eels
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 07:31
  • msg #1939

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Hunter (msg # 1936):

I’m also Autistic with an addictive personality. I found , a while ago, I was doing too much rpol and neglecting real life so I took a hiatus for a few years. I can back last year during the first lockdown but committed not to overstretch myself. I am being quite disciplined and it is working.

So my message really is that you don’t have to make any lifelong decision regarding how and where you play. Take a break, explore other options and see where it takes you. Rpol will be here, should you choose to return.



As a side note, my spellchecker defaults rpol  to fool. :)
V_V
member, 961 posts
Read my biography...
Feel free to Rmail me :)
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 08:43
  • msg #1940

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Jarodemo (msg # 1939):

I liked this post ↑, and can identify with a lot of it.

I've taken a similar approach, as of August 2020.

Hopefully Hunter can find a way to recharge, and feel enriched. Maybe we'll see them back. I hope. :)
This message was last edited by the user at 11:09, Fri 17 Sept 2021.
Piestar
member, 976 posts
once upon a time...
...there was a little pie
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 15:19
  • msg #1941

Technical questions

In reply to Yaztromo (msg # 1938):

I can see how that would be irritating. I worked in a different sort of job, but the level of frustration became similar I imagine, as in order to save money the people in charge pushed the staff so hard they couldn't do the job correctly anymore, and a lot of people suffered. I fought them, and continued to do the job correctly. They hated me, but it is hard to fire a person for doing their job right. I was just about the one in the office though that did, eventually I had to take early retirement. The stress was killing me.
Hunter
member, 1671 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Fri 17 Sep 2021
at 16:56
  • msg #1942

Technical questions

In reply to Piestar (msg # 1941):

I've run into this myself, on more than one occasion.  This typically happens when support (tech/product/etc) is outsourced; and the contracting company is being payed on a per-call basis.   I worked for one contract where the condition was: "Solve in 30 seconds or less; and if it couldn't be then escalate to tier 2 for callback".  So yes, I understand your pain.
V_V
member, 966 posts
Read my biography...
Feel free to Rmail me :)
Sun 19 Sep 2021
at 11:49
  • msg #1943

Technical questions

Minor gripe, but frustrating. I ate my food, forgot I ate it, went looking for it, got angry, searched for where the container was, found the remanants, suspected my roommate ate my food, went to talk to her, remembered I was still hungry, ate the remanants at the table and saw my drink I had with the meal the first time. That I got sad. I was looking forward to the fried chicken, but I was so hungry the first time I just ate it without tasting it. I0 so seldom order out anymore, and love fried chicken, and especially from this place. I am so mad I zoned out. Hunger is a trigger for me, so, eh...it could have been worse. Gotta let it go. Just ticked off, because it was supposed to be a treat.
Piestar
member, 978 posts
once upon a time...
...there was a little pie
Sun 19 Sep 2021
at 12:26
  • msg #1944

Technical questions

In reply to V_V (msg # 1943):

Maybe you really did enjoy and savor it, but forgot? Would that help any?
V_V
member, 968 posts
Read my biography...
Feel free to Rmail me :)
Sun 19 Sep 2021
at 12:43
  • msg #1945

Technical questions

In reply to Piestar (msg # 1944):

Yeah. :/ It does actually. *nods* :)

I ended up eating some lox and cream cheese I still had, and that was really good too. So I still got to enjoy a treat, even if it wasn't what I intended.

Being hangry about one meal is fixed by eating another...
Piestar
member, 980 posts
Sat 25 Sep 2021
at 00:08
  • [deleted]
  • msg #1946

Technical questions

This message was deleted by the user at 00:10, Sat 25 Sept 2021.
GreenTongue
member, 1048 posts
Game Archaeologist
Fri 19 Nov 2021
at 17:17
  • msg #1947

Technical questions

Isn't it funny how you Think you would like a particular type of game and you look all over for it. At some point you find one that does just what you think you would enjoy and yet it just doesn't spark that JOY you expected?

Even worse when you find a "New Game" and are super excited, then you realize you already played one just like it, only with a slightly different spin. The spin wasn't the problem the expectations were.

I suspect that I am not alone in this. Rather frustrating.
Very hard to find what you want when you only think you know what it is.

I suspect it might be the sharing of the thing more than the thing itself.
SunRuanEr
subscriber, 424 posts
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 15:18
  • msg #1948

Do details no longer matter?

Why is it that players seem allergic to actually abiding by the setting information presented when the GM sets up a scene? (I don't mean game-mechanic-canon information, but the actual setting-the-scene descriptions themselves.)

Is it that people are just so excited to see a new scene start, that they read so fast they don't pay attention to the details?
Is it because they don't care, and figure the details don't actually matter, so they can make up whatever they want?
Is it because they're self-centered and figure that whatever they want to do with the scene should work, even if it contradicts the GM's setting?
Is it because they're used to GMs that don't bother with the details, so they assume details never make a difference?

I'm talking things like...declaring that it's day, when the GM described it being night, or deciding you're riding in a cart instead of on foot, or rolling up to a dinner scene that's been thoroughly described as vegetarian and deciding that you can pick up a bacon double cheeseburger off the buffet...those sorts of things.

Am I just expecting too much? Am I product of old-school GMs that put details in purposefully and would screw you in a /heartbeat/ for not paying attention to them, and that just makes me old and out of the loop now? Does no one care any more?

Am I the only person that assumes that if a detail is mentioned (or /not/ mentioned) by a GM, there's a reason for it and it should be respected?
GreenTongue
member, 1050 posts
Game Archaeologist
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 15:51
  • msg #1949

Do details no longer matter?

In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 1948):

Yes, annoying that you go to the effort set a scene, often carefully, and it is "All About Them".

If you enforce sticking to the details that have been posted by you or others, they will just ignore or drop from the game.

I wonder how many games collapse from that?
deadtotheworld22
member, 173 posts
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 15:57
  • msg #1950

Do details no longer matter?

In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 1948):

That does sound quite frustrating, and would certainly make me less willing to continue GMing those individuals. Without seeing the context and the game you were playing, I don't want to cast too many aspertions about, but it ultimately comes down to them understanding the reason there's a GM in the first place.

Given the examples you've given, I tend to use the rule of thumb when GMing of 'don't put anything in the description which you aren't willing to argue the toss about' - so, unless there's a plot reason for them to be on foot, or that the buffet is vegetarian, I'm happy to leave it up to their imaginations and just run with it.

If it's important, I'll post it, and they need to recognise that and work around it - if it's a problem, then they're welcome to ask me about it and whether it can be changed if it really doesn't work for them, but ultimately if it's important to the scene, it's their job as a player to respect what's put in front of them.

In terms of expectations and old-school GMs, I don't think you're expecting too much - ultimately, you're doing your players a favour by GMing, and if they wish to substitute their own reality, then they can take over and free you from the stress of doing that job. It shouldn't be, as GT states, 'All About Them' - RPing is supposed to be collaborative and enjoyable for all parties, and if it's not, then don't do it.

That being said, I also wouldn't want to be in a situation where we exist in a world where we still have a lot of those 'I will screw you in a heartbeat if you don't pay attention' - sometimes players make honest mistakes, and especially with RPOL, sometimes you're posting while rushing because you don't want to hold the game up and you'll get the wrong end of the stick.

I also don't think it's a solely generational issue - there's a lot of good young players who I've worked with who are sticklers for detail, and a lot of older ones who feel they can ride roughshod over a GM!
ShadoPrism
member, 1390 posts
OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
Gamer-Disorder
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 16:04
  • msg #1951

Do details no longer matter?

In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 1948):

The double bacon cheese burger in the vegan meal just hits me. I see the character is either daydreaming about it, or is delusional. Either works for that. I can have all kinds of fun with people who ignore the scene settings, including they have gone insane but don't realize it. Everything they have done is just in their heads and not reality.
deadtotheworld22
member, 174 posts
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 16:08
  • msg #1952

Re: Do details no longer matter?

ShadoPrism:
In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 1948):

The double bacon cheese burger in the vegan meal just hits me. I see the character is either daydreaming about it, or is delusional. Either works for that. I can have all kinds of fun with people who ignore the scene settings, including they have gone insane but don't realize it. Everything they have done is just in their heads and not reality.


To be fair, I did that before once in a Mage game I GM'd, where either myself or the player wasn't paying attention to what I'd originally said was in their coffee cup, and I kept on changing it in every post until they noticed. The fun thing is that, given the context, neither of us was willing admit outright whether it was just a flub or outside interference by a nefarious third party.
Jewwk of Shuu
member, 46 posts
"I cast: Pro: Sandwich"
GM: "But WHY?!"
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 13:08
  • msg #1953

Re: Do details no longer matter?

The new WoT tv series is...disappointing...to say the least.

This is why I largely eschew the idiot box; they produce dreck like this. :\ :(
ShadoPrism
member, 1391 posts
OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
Gamer-Disorder
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 13:24
  • msg #1954

Do details no longer matter?

I been ordering from door dash lately. The service is fine its just I get breakfast from MC Ds and the one they use is full of idiots.
Take this morning, ordered cream and sugar, 2 Large coffees, and a chicken bisquet, got the bisquet, got two coffees, medium but the lid was not put on one right, so most of its coffee is in bottom of bag, also both were ice cold, so no telling how long those were sitting outside. Got no cream or sugar.
Not getting the cream or sugar is something that happens allot, or I get some random stuff I did not order, like salt and splenda.
I tried to call the store when they Really fouled up my order the other day, (got an Empty box that was supposed to have my chicken bisquet in it) but no one there will answer the phone.

I can't drive right now, my foot is injured, otherwise I would go over there and give them a piece of my mind and maybe the messed up bag of coffee.
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