I wrote a blog post about this, but I really wanted to get some more words from you guys that you like to use. I don't use profanity, and I don't like reading it in fantasy, nor do I allow it in my game.

But I love to use "period correct" or "high fantasy" curses/exclamations like "son of an orc!" or "by the gods!"

Then instead of modern words like "cool", "awesome", etc. I like to use alternative phrases, many of them pulled from antiquity.

I think of the Forgotten Realms books, Wheel of Time, and almost any other fantasy literature. They don't use "modern" words like the above, but make up their own. Kind of like the way Battlestar avoided the FCC block on the F-word by using "frack."

Anyway! Hope this helps someone and hope you guys give me some more good ones!

73 104 (and counting - Thanks for your Submissions!) Great Old School Words for Fantasy Games & RPGs :

https://d20.pub/resources/grea...tasy-games-and-rpgs/

Another good link: Dwarven Curse Generator : http://www.anim5.com/wow/generator/dwarf/index.php

By the gods

Most Dungeons & Dragons, Pathfinder, D20 and other RPG environments are polytheistic, so instead of saying “By God” like a modern day monotheist, I like to use “by the gods” as someone in a D&D game might exclaim, evoking all the pantheon.

Spire / By the Spire

In my Ptolus : City by the Spire Pathfinder Campaign, I use the word Spire in place of “cool” or similar phraseology. Example from a young man : “That’s so Spire!”

I also use “By the Spire” as an exclamation. Someone seeing a demon appear right in front of them might shout, “By the Spire! Look out!”

Sockdollager

boss, cool, awesome

Somebody who is particularly remarkable and special, or at least thinks they are. Like Kanye West, for instance. How many times have you said to your friends, “That Kanye West is such a sockdollager?” Probably never, right?

Zozzled : “drunk” and “inebriated”

Mutton shunter : 1883 slang term for a policeman

Pigeon-livered : Victorian-era slang for someone who behaves cowardly.
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By the very Pit and its puppies, yeah! Replacements for OK...

- as in 'sure': verily
- as in 'that plan is all right': Right.
- as in 'that object is all right': fine/fair/sufficient
- as in 'I'm fine': I'm hale

For cool: impressive, striking, great, brave (the direct Elizabethan equivalent of 'cool'), most fine.

Sockdollaging is more astonishing-wow than big-wow, though, since it comes from Irish slang for hitting something really hard (another fighting Irish word I love is marmalise - 'to beat to the consistency of marmalade'). It's also 19th century, so one to stock your steampunk world with.

For insults/alternatives to boringly repetitive, Christianity-based or modern swearing, I 100% recommend giving your bard access to a Shakespearian Insult Generator: http://www.literarygenius.info...nsults-generator.htm

Also, punks, doxies, toadlickers and other specific kinds of late mediaeval/early modern beggar should get more attention in crowd scenes.

Random old-timey and/or Good Words from Scotland:
to thole - to toil stoically
dreich - that kind of cold wet-air weather: slow inevitably soaking drizzle
dhule - woe, anguish (I cannot find a modern/English spelling of this)
drookit - really, really wet. Sodden, soaking, dripping on the floor.
braw - strong, bold, brave, handsome
skelp - to slap, give a glancing blow to
numpty - a fool, idiot, complete and utter muppet
glaikit - foolish, idiotic, acts dazed and dazzled
scunner - annoyance, malicious person or thing
to kipe - to give something a non-serious little chomp, like an annoyed horse, ankle-biting dog or a cat stroked wrongly.

Try Googling "Shakespeare insults."

I peronally LOVE profanity in my games, modern or fantasy. It's organic. VERY few people use zero profanity, especially in deeply stressful situations.

Speaking of Shakespeare
I do, however, love the effort in a phrase made by Loki in MCU's Avengers (the very first one). For those that need the reference, I can only say look up "Loki avengers mewlings scene" on Youtube. For context it's after he's talking about Barton's (intended) mind frack for Black Widow and immediately follows "This is my bargain you..."

Other bits of profanity I like...well...I don't have links to them, nor...could I if I wanted to....at least without getting modded.

Speaking of modern phrases..."cool" was back in mid segregation era America. So it's not THAT new. Groovy is over a decade newer. "Awesome"...um...it's literally in 1600's vernacular. "Awesome" context? eh, not really, but debatable...(Keanu Reeves) inflection? probably....but usage...no, it's more hyperbolic now...but that's a good thing for the word usage! Speaking of fracking. Shipping manure high in transit is far newer that Fruit used in yogurt cups.

Again, though, I LOVE profanity in games. This thread is both arguing for more friendly insults, and also period relevant vernacular. There's vin diagram with plenty of mutually exclusive space. If you want to creative insults for a kid friendly audience...ask a kid! Any grade school kid. Seriously, I remember some gems from when I was in 4th grade, some by D&D players. ;) "Go bite a mother gnoll!"  and variations, since hyena's are viciously matriarchal and often mark males that "deserve" it.

I don't consider this thread to be arguing for/against anything, just aiming to collect resources.

For those of us who get bored of standard earthlike Anglo-Saxon profanity/modern language that makes a secondary world seem that much shallower, or just like to collect weird words, that's a nice thing to have.

A thread to think about that also encourages considering in-culture insults, which are the Best, especially if you have a mixed party ("may you sleep on onions, you goatless wretch!").

Exactly! haha

Some even say the Bible contains profanity. When Jesus called the Pharisees "Sons of Vipers" that's basically the same thing as saying son of a .... that we would use today :D

"You landless waif" is another insult.

I just added the following insults to the post! :D

1. Rakefire

You'd think this term would mean you were kind of cool, right? Wrong. The BBC defines it as: "someone so uncool that they would outstay their welcome in someone's house until long after the fire had burned down to just the last few embers."

In other words, a rakefire is a houseguest from hell. It has the added benefit of sounding good, so you can label your brother-in-law a rakefire without him ever being the wiser.

2. Pediculous
From the Latin pediculus (louse), it means lice-infested.

What you really don't want in your home is a pediculous rakefire.

3. Scobberlotcher
This one may come from scopperloit, an old English word for "a vacation or a break from work."

Whatever its origins, it's describes someone who avoids hard work at all costs. Everyone's got that one person on the team who always seems to be missing when the hard stuff comes up. That's your friendly office scobberlotcher.

4. Gobermouch
Every office has also got a gobermouch--an ancient Irish term for a busybody. There's something about gobermouch that captures the whole concept of the disgusting habit of gossip more vividly than "busybody" though, wouldn't you agree?

5. Fopdoodle
This is someone who doesn't really matter much. There tend to be a few of those at the office, too, but remember not to let them get under your skin. If you find that difficult, try calling them a fopdoodle under your breath. It'll do wonders.

6. Klazomaniac
The most annoying person on any message board, this is an individual who ONLY SPEAKS BY SHOUTING. (It was also every parent when they first learned how to text. "HI HONEY HOW ARE YOU.I AMHEREWITHYOURMOTHER LOVE DAD")

7. Bedswerver
Don't let its high-brown origins deceive you: Shakespeare made this one up, and it means exactly what it sounds like--a cheater. He may have been attempting to link "bed" with the Dutch words "zwerver," which means "wanderer."

8. Raggabrash
You know that one person who is so totally disorganized and/or unkempt that it drives you nuts? S/he is raggabrash.

9. Foozle
A modern term synonym is fuddy-duddy; this is "a conservative, out-of-date person, especially an old man." But it can also be used to describe screwing up. For example: "Boy, you really foozled that PowerPoint presentation! Could it have been more raggabrash?"

10. Furfuraceous
From the Latin furfur (bran, chaff), this means flaky or dandruff-covered.

11. Whiffle-Whaffle
A whiffle-whaffle is just what it sounds like: someone who wastes time.

12. Dorbel
That one person who annoyingly points out every little tiny mistake (it's like they can't help themselves). It comes from the surname of French scholar Nicolas d'Orbellis. Note that dorbels are often also fopdoodles.

13. Lubberwort
In the 1500s, there was a plant that, if consumed, was said to cause stupidity or sluggishness. Like something out of Harry Potter, it wasn't real, but that didn't mean much in terms of its linguistic properties. It eventually became known as a term that described a hazy, lethargic kind of person.

I like the intention behind this thread. But the problem with archaic terms, especially in PbP perhaps, is that then you have to explain them. Unless your players are particularly erudite.

In reply to Gaffer (msg # 7):

I don't see that as a problem. It just makes all of us more knowledgeable and sesquipedalian :D

In reply to Gaffer (msg # 7):

I don't think you need to explain anything.  If an NPC yells at a PC, "Hey!  Scobberlotcher!" any player would, in all likelihood, guess that it's not a compliment.

And playing online they can always Google it to get more information before posting a response.

...or they can ctrl-T and google the word, if they notice rather than roll with it as a fantasy thing. Meanwhile, look at these glorious words! (Thanks byzantinex!)

Additionally, the way English is structured makes insults fairly obvious by context: I saw some linguist on the internet once point out that English can make anything sound like an insult by emphasising the totality of it, e.g. "you complete bowl of noodles!" and, incidentally, make anything sound like a euphemisim for drunkeness by totality + noun-ed, e.g. "they were all utterly trousered" (to give examples from objects I have to hand). Also also, an unexplained archaism can become an in-joke - see the memetic status of "egregrious" awhile back - that enhances the memorability and enjoyment of the game. People might not know/be bothered to look up what it means exactly, but context gives a general idea, enough to be run with.


Tangentally, I was thinking about paladin/polite religious sass today as a consequence of this thread:
"Go find yourself, my child."
"You have far to go, but I calculate you are already the most upright of your lineage."
"I cannot pray long enough to complete your request this century."
"May [god/ess] see fit to heal you of [horrible injury insultee doesn't have] soon."

@byzantinex they're perfectly cromulent words!

I recall reading years ago that a ready insult among Ivy Leaguers was: "Are you a Yale/Harvard/Princeton man, or did a horse step on your face?"

Gadabout

A habitual pleasure-seeker.
A woman/man who has many physical relationships.
A person who travels often or to many different places, especially for pleasure.

Gadfly

An annoying person, especially one who provokes others into action by criticism.

Hmm...I'd say a gadabout is more innocent/a level down in rakery than a rastabout, there. Less of a picaresque picaroon, more of a feckless fop. [nod]

To go down the other leg of this thread a moment, I realised that modern/our-Earth-type phrases that break fantasy immersion for me are often measurements, and that I already use an easy fix for that (rather than try to teach poor players with ten thousand better things to pay attention to fantasy-world measurements): instead of metres or yards, paces; instead of small amounts of cm or inches, handspan or finger-lengths. In clockless places/amongst hunter-gatherers, for seconds take heatbeats; hours, sun/moon movements; a span of minutes, the time taken to do some task. For weight, the nearest animal or object of commonly-known heft - things can always be clarified to the decimal point OOC if necessary.

Pedants often get annoyed about "firing" arrows, which should technically be loosed to describe the act of shooting, but honestly I find that bit of modern phrasing a) hilarious and b) a great excuse to tie things just barely on fire (this is how you improvise a fire arrow - if the thing is already very on fire it'll 1. be hard to shoot and 2. get put out by the motion rather than ignite) to arrows. Then you can legitimately yell "fire!" and your enemies will, too. Most importantly your battle now has more fire. ^_^

Back to insults and the replacement of swearing, if you do have a character from somewhere else, why not directly translate foreign insults? In French it's pretty terrible to call someone a midden, some kind of pork, or a big tuna.

...and this may be personal, but having grown up on bandes dessinées as well as various Brit comics, my mind interprets cartoon "censor symbols" as stronger than actual profanity. The genuine Forbidden Words, if you will. Naturally it depends on context as to whether "you %£^&@#!" is appropriate to any particular game, but since this is a text-based medium, might as well bring it up. Definitely recommended for comedy, especially retro stuff.

edit: bonus points if the number of cartoon swearing symbols doesn't add up to the letters in a commonplace profanity.
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I'm aware of at one GM here on RPoL that bans swearing from their games outright, and all of their games are rated Mature. So there's at least one of them among us, apparently. ;)

Now you're aware of two, b/c I do the same thing. And all my games are not mature. We do fade to black and all that jazz to keep it mostly G rated. Maybe PG sometimes.

I write in a style like R.A. Salvatore (my favorite author) which might have allusions to intimacy and more mature topics, but never modern profanity or the like.

I love all the above and do the same thing!

I'm going to add that to the blog post I did b/c a lot of people wont' think about that.

Modern Measurements vs Period Correct

• Meters/Yards/Feet =  Paces
• Centimeters/Inches = Hand-span or finger-lengths
• Hours = Sun/Moon Movement Amounts.
  Ex: Less than a half day. Halfway between breakfast and lunch.
  Ex: When the sun is at at X degrees.
• Minutes = time taken to do similar task
• Seconds = heartbeats/moments
• Weight/Pounds/Kilograms = the nearest animal or object of commonly-known heft

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[archaeologist hat] ...I know I'm just haunting this thread for words, now, but can I bring up that there were and are entire languages that evolved without profanity, and appropriateness/modernity of swearing might depend on how the GM flavours a setting?

Native Siberians, for instance, had the concept of swearing introduced with Russian contact somewhere in the 17th century, but! Since Russian swearing is mostly sexual in nature and sexuality is sacred, not profane, across the Eurasian Far North, actual Russian swearwords wouldn't make sense (it'd be like saying "lovely day!" or "Amen!" when hurt/frustrated), so Sahka, Lamut, Evenki etc. tribesfolk generally swear in Russian goshdarnits. That's a bit of a complex historical background for a fantasy world, but such things do happen; you can get the idea of swearing across without going straight for European defaults, in a serious culture-focused setting as well as a silly or specifically child-friendly one.

@byzantinex - you're welcome! I'm trying to think of other modern phrases that just show up, but am mostly drawing a blank at present.

Thank you for this thread! Swearing-related hilarity aside, I've long wondered how to avoid using some words that felt too modern.

Question: is "moment" such a word? Would a phrase "A short moment later..." be immersion-breaking in the context of fantasy fiction / narration?

Also: what about "guy"? Is it too modern, too?

Moments certinly work. If you're feeling creative, it could be "in the time it took [character] to draw breath" or something like that, but everyone has to rest sometimes.

"Guys" is pretty modern-sounding and -feeling...hmm. Replacements for "guys":

- as in those men or people over there: those men/that crowd/yon folk
- as in getting your friends' attention: look, everyone!, hey!, behold
- as in addressing your friends: friends, gang, ladies/lads, me hearties
- as in some nonspecific men: men, lads, gentlemen
- as in some nonspecific people: folk, people, humans (or other specific sapients)

A moment is defined as about 4 seconds in length (while a jiffy, just for knowledge sake, is 1/100th of a second).  A breath, takes about two seconds, a heartbeat a little less than one.
Ancient Egypt used the cubit, the measurement from the tip of the pharoah's middle finger to the end of his elbow when his right arm was bent, or about eighteen inches (mine, funnily enough IS eighteen inches).  There were also leagues, about the distance a person could walk in one hour, or the nautical league which is 3.452 miles.  Of course, the distance a person can walk in an hour is going to vary based upon terrain.

Only in musical notation - there's no formal definition of a moment in general usage.

I thought of a good fantasy-feel term for snacks, though! Victuals. Or 'vittles' for those Redwall fans out there. Maybe you could give a rough/casual feel to provender/provisions as 'provvies' in the same manner...in-game slang is fun.

I try not to think about stuff being modern too much. The emotional punch and narrative is much more important imo. And I can always edit the stuff later. That being said, I find long sentences to be real nice, and they work almost regardless of the setting. "Your wit is as dim as the twilight when the sun has already dawned on a culture you've never heard of" (assumes they know the world is round)
"You've drunk an ocean's worth of disappointment and misery, only to fail to recreate said ocean at home in the shape of a chunky green puddle on my carpet. Now why would I be mad about that?"

In reply to yuirick (msg # 22):

Those both hurt my brain a little bit to read...

And yet...

I love them! haha

I think they're beautifully crafted, though the "right" length for anything will always depend on style and context (also, even the Ancient Greeks knew the world was round; pop-culture Victorian ideas about "primitive" people thinking otherwise is just their being deliberately over-literal in the interpretation of Norse mythology and early mediaeval maps).

Meanwhile, potential old-timey alternatives for modern/clinical phraseology that often crops up around these practices/conditions:
- psychology: wit-wisdom, insight, keen awareness
- psychopath: ice-minded, thin soul
- [thing] addict: [thing] fiend
- depression: melancholy, saturated with the black bile, camel sickness
- sleep paralysis: hag-ridden
- epilepsy: falling sickness, bewitchment, attack by spirits

In reply to tibiotarsus (msg # 24):

Oh yeah! This is a great idea. Need to look up some other OLD "psychology" terms before we knew as much as we do today.

Like leeching for "hot blood" and the like.

Antique medicine would be an awesome source.

You'd need a low-magic world for it to be relevant, but you could have a lot of fun with such concepts - I know someone who ran a GURPS campaign with magic based off the Four Humours theory that was pretty neat and immersive. A GM interested in that kind of thing could have a great time with settings outside pseudo-Europe as well.

Also related to in-culture interpretations is the fact that before the microscope diseases were often classified by symptoms, leading some things to get amalgamated: "consumption" in the 19th century was used not exclusively for tuberculosis, but often for other pulmonary diseases as well, since if a patient showed an overlapping range of symptoms the doctors would just assume it was the same thing.

I had a character who considered rabies and contagious werewolfism to be different strains of 'wolf disease' (the antiseptic properties of silver being why it crops up across cultures as a substance to ward off evil with - if we interpret an attack of disease as the attack of malicious forces hostile to life, then, well, they're right) for this reason, in line with that people's interpretation of epidemology...it strikes me that a creative GM could use that kind of thing to bring back the original link between vampires and plague. Vampire infestations that can be confused with the Black Death because they bite under the arm nearer the heart/high up the thigh for the big juicy artery, and their mouths are full of undead necrotic gunk causing buboes...vampires whose touch blisters skin, but long to touch living flesh, so that bite marks are harder to see and the symptoms look like measles/smallpox...early 1920s Spanish Flu vampires, damage from bites leaving dark spots, lack of blood leaving patients too weak to breathe, injuries from being leant on during feeding opening sores in their poor lungs...etc. etc.

Anyway, adventure seeds aside, some suggestions for -
microbes, bacteria, germs: filth, rot, [demonic] influence, bad air
to become gangrenous: take bad, turn sour
epidemic: plague, pestilence, blight
ergot poisoning: rye madness, bewitchment

How about words like: information, context, background (in the sense of clue-gathering etc.)? Which of them would be too modern?

   Jiminy Crickets ...

    Where the heck was this when I was running my "7th Sea" game a few months ago? Some of this would have been priceless.

   But to add to the profanity (or sorts):

   Slubberdegullion: A slovenly or worthless person.

   (Found this word in a reference to a character card from "ROME: TOTAL WAR" [The original], and when I first found out what it was and how to pronounce it, I've been using it ever since ... )

   Hilarious.

In reply to Varsovian (msg # 27):

I don't know if any of them would be considered 'too modern', but you might look for alternatives just to change up the feel.  Even if a word has been around for centuries, if it is commonly used today, using it will feel like today.

Nothing comes to mind immediately as an alternative for 'information' or 'context', but you can easily replace 'background' with 'history'...

Seconded, facemaker. Some more fantasy-style/dignified ideas, though -

information: knowledge, kenning, to wot of [thing]
context: such as it was, within the [context] realm, its natural place.
background: the rumours that dog [subject]'s heels, whence [subject] has come, what we know of [subject]

Oh, and just for KingHenryBlack, I just thought of another variant of 'guys' that needs to come back - bravos!

Also, on swearing on RPoL (or rather not), here in text you can also create a sense of terrible, terrible words via narration, e.g. "Rip spat a stream of curses that would have caused any listening cleric to catch fire from sheer mortification", "Tam used a word that would have made his ancestors' eyes water," "They continued talking whilst the parrot scourged the air with the oaths the visiting buccaneers had left".

Alternatively, to utterly confuse your chatacter's enemies and force them to give the impression your buddy is in possession of insults so terrible they're unbearable to report, just have them approach the target and yell "INSULTS!" or "ABUSE!"

Excellent! I added all your suggestions to the blog post! Thank you for the awesome suggestions!

https://d20.pub/resources/grea...tasy-games-and-rpgs/



Added this to the blog post as well. Great one! :D



Can you show me a reference for this? I googled and couldn't find any mention of it being used this way. But it could also be a great replacement for "people," "dudes," "companions," etc, which we often have use for in our fantasy RPG parties.



Yes! I love this and use it myself quite frequently. Just because i don't want to read/write swearing in my games

   As for swearing in games, I personally keep it to a low boil - I rarely swear in real life, usually going with 'fun' swear-words: "Fudgecookies!" "Son of a battleship!" and the like (Couldn't swear at home, even with a military family, so I improvised as any good soldier/sailor/airman might ... )

   When I ran [game name removed], I ran it with the idea that people swore, just not as often and it was often a contest (at least to myself, if no one else) how to say something using more colourful language of the period (mid-1600's) and still come up with something vile. As you might expect, the Bard was a frequent source of material, but I tried to keep it mildly unique, sometimes as specific to each Nation. (i.e., Ussura/Russia swore about such mundane things, like the weather or nature, while Castille/Spain was more religious in nature.)

   As for my own characters, I kept it simple: Raymond glared in the direction of his target, while all manner of sulfurous oaths sprang to mind; both incestuous and tempestuous, he cursed the man who'd killed his brother and contemplated returning the favour - with interest. (Okay, a bit of flair in there, but you get the meaning ...



  A word that used to get a lot of use in my game. :P

   "A daring bandit, assassin, or murderer, especially one hired to steal or murder for another."
ORIGIN OF BRAVO: From Italian, dating back to 1755–65.

  (Courtesy of Dictionary.com)
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You know, I always assumed I'd picked "bravos" up from Shakespeare and/or shanties, but if it's that late then I probably got it from old-fashioned fantasy - I suspect Fitz Leiber, Jack Vance or some fellow of that era. As KingHenryBlack points out, it does come up with a rather darker shading there as the second definition highlighted by Google.

Didn't want to post over here without something to add, so...to add to the great idea of culture-specific pseudoswearing, I thought of bringing in that Lord of the Rings was deliberately written without primarily Latin-derived words and with Anglo-Saxon style stock descriptions - things not trees in Tolkien's works tend to be fair, fine, foul, fell, grey etc. - which might be a nice subtle touch for localising a character as From North without relying too hard on accents or Earth-parallel vocabulary.

Some further Good Words of a fancy fantasy-appropriate (& decidedly Latinate) type, now I have a cache of them handy:

Caliginous - misty/dark, obscure
Adumbrate - fore/overshadowing
Veridical - truth-telling (adj.)
Vecordious - insane
Gyre - circle/spiral, whirling air/water
Peccant - sinful (good for fancy insults!)
Ramiform - branching/branch-shaped
Tintinnabulation - sound of approaching Morris dancer or other bell-covered entity


...and a few non-Classical ones, for that Ranger from the Westmoreland or what-have-ye:

Kerf - carved groove, tool mark
Kipper - to preserve by salting and smoking, a fish preserved by such method
Skirr - to move with fast skimming flight or movement
Skyr - kind of yogurt
Maunder - to ramble
Mire* - deep mud, also 'to get stuck in actual or metaphorical deep mud'
Peedie - teeny-tiny, small (from Orcadian Norn dialect)


_{*my young colleague didn't know this word, despite living in Scotland!}

Another phrase I try to avoid using is "Mister" or "Sir" unless it's in relation to Sir Knight Man.

Many times people used the term "Master" but often in D&D/Fantasy worlds, that word carries extra weight, like in certain organizations and a person's "level" in some places. Obviously calling someone Master in the right contexts makes a lot of sense though. :D

So here are some alternatives to Sir/Mister/Master I like to use.

Esquire/Squire: a young nobleman who, in training for knighthood, acted as an attendant to a knight.

Monsieur: basically just "mister" but in French so it's more exotic sounding :D

Sire: a respectful form of address for someone of high social status.

Signore: again, mister, but in Spanish Italian.

Herr: german for mister

Gentleman: Not just a honorific, but could be used as a greeting. ex: "Gentleman John Smith, a pleasure to meet you."

Statesman: a skilled, experienced, and respected political leader or figure.

Swain: a young lover or suitor, or young country man.

Bodach : a boorish old man

Groom: not just a guy getting married, or someone who brushes a horse. Can also be referred to any of various officials of a royal household.
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Signore (seen-YORE-a) is not Spanish.  It is Italian, just as Signora and Signorina are.  But, they are very similar to their Spanish counterparts.
Señor, Señora, and Señorita are Spanish.
Dpn and Doña were used in Spanish as honorifics for wealthy landowners.  While Don in Italian usually refers to the head of a MAFIA famiglia.

Honestly all that is better served by in-culture titles anyway - modern European languages in games are just as jarring as modern English to people who aren't monolingual or/and American.

I'll throw in 'carlin', 'goodwife' and 'beldame', though, so the older guys can have some women to marry.

Beldame : a malicious and ugly woman, especially an old one; a witch.

haha! Harsh! :D


Ooops! Thanks for the fix.

I think the use of Don and Dona could be kind of fun in a fantasy setting that doesn't have the mafia. Just like you said it's used in Spanish as an honorific. Clever!
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I think that it was used as an honorific in Italian the same as it was in Spanish, but popular culture changed all that with the fascination of the MAFIA.

If anyone is interested, I have somewhere a write-up on Japanese invective.  I don't think I could post it here, since the English explanations in the text are more profane/obscene than most of the actual Japanese.  I could, however, post the actual glossary with some edits.

The short version:  very few words in Japanese are intrinsically profane or obscene - what matters most is the delivery:  the inflection, and most importantly, the context (esp. the social difference between the speaker and the target).

Something else: it may have already been pointed out, but language grows naturally as members of a culture interact with their surroundings.  What we consider "archaic" was at one time contemporary.  This can be useful in games where time travel or other dislocations are involved.

At one point in our history as a planet, there were languages that had no concept of time (or, according to some linguistics scholars, a radically different time sense):  no tenses, no words for 'yesterday' or 'tomorrow' or, even, 'many moons ago' or its equivalent.  Everything was present tense, or stated with no tense expressed or implied.  Hopi and other languages still exist in the present era that are still sparking scholarly debate and "controversy".

Odd tidbit of trivia along those lines--surviving scripts from early Medieval plays hint that they had a very different perception of time than we do.  It was not uncommon for contemporary characters to converse with ancients (mostly Biblical, in that era) on their way to meet the Wise Men, who told them what they had seen of the Apocalypse, or stuff of similarly time-jumbled events.  It's hard to say for certain because there's not exactly an abundance of philosophical writings from the era expounding on whether that was a common frame of reference for people or just a theatrical conceit.

What you're picking up there is actually a mediaeval dramatic convention for the idea of 'myth time', which is universally simultaneously "now", "long ago" and "prophecy". Most preliterate cultures have evidence for this frame of reference, since it takes the place of a physical book for where mythtellers "go" to get their version of a story.

Long story short, if you have a culture whose storytelling is primarily collective-human-memory-based rather than paper-based, the concept of mythtime will exist...so there will be a phrase equivalent to "Once upon a time..."

At a tangent, the Haida language (among others) actually has whole gramatical structures to reference the degree of certainty of an event, helping listeners within an oral tradition distinguish historical tellings from mythic occurences.

On the theme of Good Words, though, I don't remember if I brought up banjaxed ('broken' or sometimes 'very drunk') before, though I certainly will now.