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D&D 5e getting no love.

Posted by Vinny
CaptainHellrazor
member, 309 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 09:23
  • msg #3

D&D 5e getting no love

Because 1st Edition is better :) I am running two of those games here on RPoL with a dozen players in both and never have problems finding new players when needed.
tibiotarsus
member, 284 posts
Hopepunk with a shovel
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 09:26
  • msg #4

D&D 5e getting no love

I'd cite an older user base with broader interests, but maybe describe the kind of game you're planning to run? As far as I've observed, few people play games purely for the system, and if they do it's more likely they're in love with something obscure rather than the megabrand of eurofantasy.

 At any rate, I don't go here, but a) I've always had the impression any D&D game fills up fast here and b) I run "unpopular" niche games and have landed everything not actively sabotaged, so I think I can safely say build it and they will come. You just have to tell them what you mean to build.

Of course, there may be tagging issues at work, too: now and then I see something that's managed to get to advertise without a game tag and it's usually some species of D&D in the title. They may be able to assume it's so popular the game will fill before anyone searches for it.
Dr. Schadenfreude
member, 21 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 09:38
  • msg #5

D&D 5e getting no love

I think this is a bit of mistakenly applied survivorship bias.

Searching without the requirement that the games are actively seeking players seems to produce considerably more results, by my count around forty 5e games with posts within the last 24 hours.
This message was last edited by the user at 09:47, Sat 21 Jan 2023.
Vinny
supporter, 572 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 09:55
  • msg #6

D&D 5e getting no love

Thanks for the feedback everyone!
Ramidel
member, 1404 posts
Err on the side
of awesome.
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 10:30
  • msg #7

D&D 5e getting no love

Jokes aside, CaptainHellrazor's comment does bring something up. D&D's fanbase is seriously edition-fractured, so there's fewer open games for each edition (and 5e is a popular edition - heaven help you if you want to play a 4e game, for example).
SmallbutVicious
member, 6 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 11:53
  • msg #8

D&D 5e getting no love

13 results means the game is very popular. I only managed to find two systems with more open games (3.5 with 15, and Pathfinder with 16).
Big Brother
member, 484 posts
Who controls the past...
... Controls the future.
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 12:29
  • msg #9

D&D 5e getting no love

In reply to SmallbutVicious (msg # 8):

Right? I'm thinking 2 games is insanely popular, and here comes Vinny with "only 13 games". *sigh*
Vinny
supporter, 573 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 12:42
  • msg #10

D&D 5e getting no love

In reply to Big Brother (msg # 9):

13 games is 0.2% of the 5959 active games on this site.
NowhereMan
member, 497 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 12:54
  • msg #11

D&D 5e getting no love

According to the search I just did, there are 223 active 5e games. Seems like you're having quite the opposite of a "no love" problem. All but 13 of those 223 games are full.
Ramidel
member, 1405 posts
Err on the side
of awesome.
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 13:15
  • msg #12

D&D 5e getting no love

The search feature is slightly bugged, though, and goes down to "Dungeons" for the game system after the first page.

Still, not going to say it's an unloved system.
Vinny
supporter, 574 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 13:19
  • msg #13

D&D 5e getting no love

In reply to NowhereMan (msg # 11):

Yes, my initial search only specified games looking for players. My bad.
Sir Swindle
member, 355 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 16:23
  • msg #14

D&D 5e getting no love

But also the massed exodus from the system for political reasons recently.
1492
member, 77 posts
I like monkeys
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 20:53
  • msg #15

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

Sir Swindle:
But also the massed exodus from the system for political reasons recently.

I must have missed that.
tmagann
member, 836 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 21:14
  • msg #16

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

I think he's referring to the Hadozee write up in the new Spelljammer rules. History was borrowed from and it upset some folks, at least according to some fan sites that crop up in my news feed.
1492
member, 78 posts
I like monkeys
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 21:19
  • msg #17

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
dlantoub
member, 276 posts
Anime Fan
Virtually all genres
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 22:50
  • msg #18

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

Dnd fills up fast! It's pretty much a lottery. If you have a rogues gallery of characters ready to go at a moment's notice you are more likely to get invited. It's not unusual for DND games for popular editions to be full under 24 hours of an add getting posted. If longer, it's usually because the DM has chosen to take his time selecting.
Sir Swindle
member, 356 posts
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 01:20
  • msg #19

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

1492:
Sir Swindle:
But also the massed exodus from the system for political reasons recently.

I must have missed that.

How do you get internet under that rock where you apparently live? The whole OGL controversy... it's like literally the only gaming news for the last like month?
tmagann
member, 837 posts
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #20

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

Not all of us follow the gaming news. The only reason I even noticed it is that google forced it in the news feed for me. My fault for using google and chrome, I suppose.
1492
member, 79 posts
I like monkeys
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 06:20
  • msg #21

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

Sir Swindle:
How do you get internet under that rock where you apparently live? The whole OGL controversy... it's like literally the only gaming news for the last like month?

I'm well aware of the OGL controversy.  It's like literally the only gaming news for the last like month.

I just didn't know what you meant by, "massed exodus from the system for political reasons," because that could refer to any number of things. Like literally.
Hunter
member, 1881 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 07:32
  • msg #22

Re: D&D 5e getting no love

Sir Swindle:
How do you get internet under that rock where you apparently live? The whole OGL controversy... it's like literally the only gaming news for the last like month?


But it's a very nice rock, all mossy and warm.   Seriously, though, I suspect that it's a case of trying to do too much with too little.
steelsmiter
member, 2200 posts
BESM, Fate, Indies, PBTA
NO FREEFORM! NO d20!
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 15:09
  • msg #23

D&D 5e getting no love

1492:
I just didn't know what you meant by, "massed exodus from the system for political reasons," because that could refer to any number of things. Like literally.

I myself thought "political reasons" wasn't a great way to describe that when "legal" or possibly "financial" were a much better fit.
RPGuru92
member, 196 posts
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 15:21
  • msg #24

D&D 5e getting no love

I think after that OGL debacle, universally 5e is getting little love.
Sir Swindle
member, 357 posts
Mon 23 Jan 2023
at 00:14
  • msg #25

D&D 5e getting no love

steelsmiter:
1492:
I just didn't know what you meant by, "massed exodus from the system for political reasons," because that could refer to any number of things. Like literally.

I myself thought "political reasons" wasn't a great way to describe that when "legal" or possibly "financial" were a much better fit.

Not really. From a player side there isn't actually that much reason to be upset. You very much were not going to be affected by it directly.

So it becomes a social responsibility thing. Which is political.
Dirigible
member, 248 posts
Mon 23 Jan 2023
at 01:07
  • msg #26

D&D 5e getting no love

I put up an ad for a 5e game four days ago and have ~24 applications to sort through, so I think it's safe to say people are still keen on it.
steelsmiter
member, 2201 posts
BESM, Fate, Indies, PBTA
NO FREEFORM! NO d20!
Mon 23 Jan 2023
at 01:15
  • msg #27

D&D 5e getting no love

Sir Swindle:
You very much were not going to be affected by it directly.

I'm personally never going to be personally affected by it in any circumstances

quote:
So it becomes a social responsibility thing. Which is political.

I don't buy that logic, and I've seen several breakdowns that suggest that if I were a player there are legal ramifications behind what licenses they provide and the fact that they could just remove something granted in perpetuity. So even though I will personally never be affected by it in any way, some people could in legal terms. Not just the people who make over whatever magical amount they decide on, although those people are definitely more affected and the masses will most likely only be affected in very minor ways unless they start getting the shaft through D&D Beyond which I'm given to understand has different legal terms, and thus different legal ramifications.
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