bigbadron
 moderator, 14657 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
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Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 18:34
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to pfarland (msg # 33):

No, "hiring mods" wouldn't work.  For one thing, they would not be paid anything for their time, so they wouldn't be hired.

Then there's the fact that it would require us to make user information available to people who never had access to it before.  How many users would like their email address, age/date of birth, etc... handing over to a bunch of relative strangers?
Merevel
 member, 739 posts
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Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 18:35
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
*cough* we do that every time we sign up for anything at all.
bigbadron
 moderator, 14658 posts
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Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 18:38
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Nasty cough you have there.  :)

Yes, but when you sign up for something, you're handing the information over of your own free will, as opposed to the people you give it to then passing it on to a bunch of other people without you knowing who they are.
pfarland
 member, 213 posts
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 18:42
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to bigbadron (msg # 41):

Well, the "hire" was not really meaning paid, lol.  Though you do make a point about information.  I was just kicking out an idea.
PhantomSkyfire
 member, 63 posts
 Nothing is sacred.
 Everything is permitted.
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 18:54
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
This policy change meets with my satisfaction. I dread the speed bump, but it's pretty much unavoidable.
pfarland
 member, 214 posts
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 18:57
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
I really think everyone will be in favor of this.  And like it was said, the spped bump will probably be hours as opposed to days.  Even a day wouldn't be a big deal.
cruinne
 moderator, 6539 posts
 what DO you do with
 a drunken sailor?
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 19:00
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to pfarland (msg # 44):

You can tell by how few of us there are that moderators are added pretty rarely.  And basically, someone's a site moderator or not (there's no in-between stage because we've never needed one).

Since we don't expect the requests for adult access to take more than a few hours to approve in most (if not all) cases, I don't expect taking the time to train new people who've never modded RPoL where all the controls are and what to do/what not to do and all that would really be worth the time.  (That and finding people who can be trusted with their mod abilities is not exactly trivial or quick to do ;-).)

This message was last edited by the user at 19:01, Mon 01 Sept 2014.

pfarland
 member, 215 posts
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 19:10
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to cruinne (msg # 47):

Yeah, I wasn't sure if there could be a limited mod.  And it's all a moot point if we aren't talking days to weeks of the speed bump.
SunRuanEr
 member, 18 posts
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 19:21
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Just for verification purposes, since it isn't explicitly stated in the explanatory post: No one is actually being removed from their adult games by this automated process, and therefore all PM threads/scratchpads/etc within such games are safe, and will still be there once players reacquire the right to post in those adult games?
bigbadron
 moderator, 14659 posts
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Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 19:24
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
That is correct.  None of the content will be removed from any game.
SunRuanEr
 member, 19 posts
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 19:28
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Awesome. Thanks Ron. I was dreading having to warn people to back all of those things up! Looking forward to the new system. :)
chaosninja
 member, 67 posts
Mon 1 Sep 2014
at 21:21
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Should make some things easier that is for sure. Here is hoping no bugs sneak into the system.
Tzuppy
 member, 855 posts
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 and Indie RPGs
Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 01:43
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
As a software engineer and an experienced user of this site I know there can be some hickups, but so far everything about this policy seems right. Of course, I am a roleplayer hitting porn occasionally, as opposed to a porner doing RPG for porn, so this sort of thing hits me not nearly as often as it hits the folks who come here primarily for porn. Of course, I will reserve my main judgment for after implementation, but so far this looks like a step in perfect direction and accepting recommendations myself and several others have been making over the years.
fireflights
 member, 150 posts
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 always burns
Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 01:45
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
I'm good with the implementation of this age verification, I think it's a good idea and I applaud Jase and the Mods for coming up with this solution.
pfarland
 member, 217 posts
Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 01:52
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
I think it might be easier to just have anyone against this speak up.  Seems to be that everyone so far likes it.  How rare is that?
icosahedron152
 member, 339 posts
Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 08:25
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
This looks like a good idea if Iím understanding it correctly. Iím all in favour of anything that reduces the amount of info I have to provide, the number of occasions on which I have to provide it, and the number of people who get to see it.

The only downside is that it seems I now have to provide a mm yyyy statement whereas before I could get away with just providing an age.

However... Iím following items 1-6, but Iím afraid I get a bit lost in 7-10.

Item 7 suggests that each game you enter will request an age statement.
Item 8 para 2 and item 9 suggest that the GM will not see the age statement and will only get an ĎAdult yes/noí.

Can you clarify:
1. Will the GMs for each game see my mm yyyy?
2. Can you explain the purpose of requesting an age statement in each game if access is automatically denied to any adult games if you are not a Ďmemberí of the adult section? It looks like youíre doing the same thing twice. Maybe Iím being a bit dense, but Iím just not getting this part.

Thanks. :)
Asuryan
 member, 161 posts
Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 08:35
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
pfarland:
I think it might be easier to just have anyone against this speak up.  Seems to be that everyone so far likes it.  How rare is that?

I think it's rather that people not liking it keeps silent or moves off-site.
*shrugs*My two cents on that anyhow.
bigbadron
 moderator, 14660 posts
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Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 08:47
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to icosahedron152 (msg # 56):

1.  No, they won't.

2.  Age statements in each game provide another layer of security.
icosahedron152
 member, 340 posts
Tue 2 Sep 2014
at 19:07
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Thanks BBR. :)
ladysharlyne
 member, 2124 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Wed 3 Sep 2014
at 18:02
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Bear with me I am getting old here ....

So as a GM I still should ask for this statement

I (user name), age ?? born March 1954 am of legal age to roleplay in Adult games in the area I live in.

Just not asking for the full date of birth.  I have used the user name and full date of birth in the past to search the net to see what I can pull up on the username and see if age matches what I have.  I only would do this if I am in doubt.

So what you are saying is that when a new player registers for the site they will be checked out by birthday then and give what accesses they need.

Or am I simple confused.com here...

Just trying to get my head around things ;-)
Shannara
 moderator, 3482 posts
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 DON'T PANIC!
Wed 3 Sep 2014
at 18:07
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
For now, please collect statements as you have been doing.

Once the change happens, the system will require a statement from the user when they request to join an adult game, as well as the initial statement at signup (or at changeover for existing users) when they request adult access for the site.

This message was last edited by the user at 18:44, Wed 03 Sept 2014.

ladysharlyne
 member, 2125 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Wed 3 Sep 2014
at 18:40
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
Thanks Shannara ;-)
CaesarCV
 member, 37 posts
Wed 3 Sep 2014
at 18:51
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
One last question. I have already collected statements of age from all of my players. When the change occurs, will I have to halt my game and wait for the permission to run through? Or can I continue running it, provided I do not use adult content or even set the game to Mature temporarily?
SWolfe
 member, 28 posts
Wed 3 Sep 2014
at 18:53
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to ladysharlyne (msg # 60):

I do have to say, though, that the thought of GMs using my information to search for me on the internet bothers me a little.  I know it's always a risk when information is shared, but to have someone openly admit they are surfing the web to check on me is still disconcerting.
bigbadron
 moderator, 14665 posts
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 but mostly he's Ron.
Wed 3 Sep 2014
at 18:55
Re: Changes to the Adult section of RPoL
In reply to CaesarCV (msg # 63):

If you have any Adult material in the game, you will not be able to set the game to Mature unless you remove it first.

And yes, there will likely be a short delay in your game while accounts are processed.