Correct that nothing has changed for a long time but I just loosened the requirements when using quoting.  About twice as generous as before, thrice for longer messages.

This may be a little bit frivolous, but would it be possible to have an option to move the menus to the other side of the screen, for left-handed people?

In reply to Dream Sequence (msg # 87):

Given that my request we be allowed to quote a single line of text was rejected as outrageously stupid and wholly unnecessary, I will be shocked if your request is honored. :)

You mean like this?

In reply to Locke1221 (msg # 89):

Yeah- that's the sort of smart-*ss dismissive response I got the first time around.

Well if that's not what you mean by quoting a single line of text, I don't know what you could mean, so good luck to you.

I think that the problem is that 1492's comment followed hard upon the comments above regarding length of quotes and Locke1221 responded accordingly, whereas 1492 was actually referring to a suggestion they'd made over in RPoL Development re quoting parts of a block of text which had evolved into a discussion around the usefulness of copying quotes (in part OR in full) from closed threads to clipboard (ie where they can't be inserted into a new post) - link to a message in another game

Though I might well have that confused as I didn't think that discussion had rounded up (useful clarifications & further suggestions, but I think it was still ongoing), there wasn't much in the way of votes (+/- 1) ... and I'm not reading anything in there to say that it was "rejected as outrageously stupid and wholly unnecessary" ... so as I say, I could be wrong about that.  :<

In reply to Skald (msg # 92):

Thanks for weighing in, Skald. It's a sensitive subject for me, but I previously said I would leave it alone, and I probably should have done so.

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@Locke1221 - I know full well that quoting a single line of text can be "achieved." What I'm talking about, and what I previously asked about, was the ability to "select" a portion of text to quote. Here's a quick example of where it would be a helpful feature...

In a game thread, Player A, Player B, and Player C each make a post suggesting the next course of action for the party. Let's say they're at a crossroads.

For a number of reasons, Player D decides that it would be a good idea to discuss the matter in an OOC thread, rather than the game thread, just as players might do around the table when trying to make an important group decision.

As the RPOL site is currently designed, how many steps would it take for Player D to quote a portion of all three posts made by Players A, B, and C, then offer a response in the OOC thread, examining the pros and cons, or addressing specific points each player may have made in their respective posts?

The answer to that question is, it would take 15 or more steps. Whereas, if a feature was installed that allowed the three lines to be quoted and then dumped into an OOC post, it would only take four steps.

When I tried to explain this issue previously, and to suggest a simple fix, I received several responses that implied it was stupid and unnecessary. Your comment seemed to echo that perspective. That's why I reacted poorly to it. I apologize for that.

Frankly, it doesn't matter at this point. If I'm the only person in the entire RPOL universe who thinks it's a problem that needs fixing, then I understand why the mods would deem it as unworthy of their time or attention. So everyone can just... carry on.

Happy New Year and best wishes.
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My issue is that why can't i roll the dice on the same page.  Dice roller is great but creating a post, submitting it then going back to roll the dice, copy and paste it in the OOC color or text.  Should be an easier way.

Simply - Roll first.  Then either copy in the new [roll=] links into your post or just react accordingly in the message (the GM can use the "rolls" link next to your character name in the post to view the rolls around that time, rolls within an hour of your post are highlighted).

I open dice roller in a separate tab, then switch back and forth while writing a post. There is no need to save the post first, then edit in the rolls.

Of course, I use desktop. That probably does not work as well on mobile.

It depends on your mobile browser in my experience, I use Firefox mobile and I haven’t noticed a difference. Safari though? Oof.

My biggest complaint is that pics are now bumped to the right of the screen if I'm not holding my phone sideways (which brings up its own set of mobility issues with assumptions of being able to hold phones sideways). I scan long threads for character posts by pic (not name), and since it isn't standard in Western countries to read right-to-left, the gap throws me off. If the height and width of the name block is going to remain the same regardless, why not lock the pic right beside the name?

In the grand scheme of things it's minor, but it's an annoyance in the midst of all the other changes.

In reply to Evil Empryss (msg # 98):

If we put it next to the name then it'll push down the rest of the character/post information and require more scrolling.  It also looks really odd.  We could put it all the way to the left but the character portrait is aesthetics and not important post information so I don't believe it should have "poll position".

I realise you're scanning threads in a very particular way that makes it the most important to you but sometimes we've got to realise we're doing thinks contrary to intents and, unless there's a suddenly influx of "I do this too!" posts (you're the first to mention this), the site unfortunately can't take a backward step because if it.

If the pic size doesn't change, if it's just set in a cell closer to the ID block, I'm not understanding how it would push anything further down. Granted, my level of coding knowledge is limited, so either I'm not describing something clearly or I'm completely lost on your explanation.

Quite possibly both.

But like I said, in the grand scheme of things it's minor. Growing pains of adapting to the changes suck, but I'm not about to throw a tantrum and quit the site.

I appreciate the direct reply, tho, most of all. Thanks, jase!

The "Last Visited" is missing from the Cast in the new ui.

This is a major piece of information that is now missing.

It's still available for GMs, but a successful argument was made that it could compromise a certain degree of anonymity amongst players in a game, so the decision was made to remove it from player view.

I would like to see this argument. Despite claims for anonymity, I assert that this information is valuable for players deciding if and when to post.

In reply to azzuri (msg # 103):

link to a message in another game

It's around msg#400 in the "New Sight Design" thread in the "RPoL Development" forum.

Fortunately, it looks like GMs can still see all the "last logged on" times, so you could just ask your GM if it's important to you at the time. A little clunky, but I've been stalked by another player, so I can personally appreciate it, even if I wasn't involved in the decision.

 yeah. That  last log in, is important  to me, because i have people from over the Globe, so its  good  for me to know if they will be able to response  .

I'll bite.  How is the last logon information even relevant to the decision to post, much less the timing of it?  I, for one, have NEVER looked at last logons before deciding whether to post, and even if I had, it would have had absolutely no impact on my choice of timing for it.  If I log on to the game and there's a post that appears to be wanting a reply from me, I post the reply.  If I can't do it immediately, I'll do it at my earliest convenience.

While I don't do it, there are a lot of things I do that I know many other players don't, and vice versa.  I'm curious as to how the last logon information impacts those decisions.

All the arguments for and against are over in the New site design thread in the RPoL Development forum, starting around msg #400, with more recent additions when the change was implemented (I noticed a mention around #651, may be more).

Please don't start the argument up again here !  There's strong views either way.   :>

In games with lots of players it is very helpful to have the last player login information. Many players in such games login but do not post right away. In fact, they may wait until another, or other players, posts.

In fact, in such games, particularly when there may be larger numbers of player characters posting together in that encounter, say five or ten, it comes down to some players waiting for others to post because they want to see what those others post first. That delays the encounter and the game.

I read from post #400 onward and didn't see any reasonable explanation why it might be harmful to GMs.

People were using it to break anonymity, one of the cornerstones of RPoL.

Additionally some games had some sort of completive subterfuge which required running multiple characters, members were noting the last login information to figure out which characters belonged to who, breaking the game entirely.

If all that's not enough (and what made the decision easy for me) is that in an attempt to protect anonymity I'd been obfuscating the last login information... or in other words the last login information was lying to your face.  The obfuscation routine was largely based on... last post.

So I realise you think you've lost something but all you've lost is a filthy lying cast list.