Same thread now without a posting limit warning.

Yay, warning free thread!!!

Oh come now, we all like being warned before we post :)

Electric Bugaloo... Hmm, where is the Dreaded Gazebo?

I like it when it warns me others have posted, but approaching a solid 1,000 posts just gets silly...

Wasn't there a Bugaloo Shremp?

Google doesn't think so... But who knows?

Hee.  Where are we going to find a tub big enough?

hahaha not even in the stables.

I am mostly caught up but I want to confirm something. Is anyone going to tell Svetlana and the others what happened in their outing? I saw Ursion defer to Erlin who said "I'll do it later" but then Ursion did a time skip so I'm not sure if that was ever brought up or not.

Is this about the kobolds?

I think she is talking about all we did..

Yeah, encountering the two different bandit gangs, the kobolds & mites etc.

I am sure Erlin can make an eloquent back history post on all of that.

Agreed, I think she would sum it up in am entertaining way.

Yeah... let the skald tell the tale... :)

Logical Renee will have a post IC to be made... I need to drop these thoughts here.

From what I'm gathering we're basically being asked to bring in a 'foreign' power to garrison within our realm from a defensible location that isn't beholden to anyone, but can enforce 'laws' that may or may not be the local laws (Because they aren't answerable to anyone so what would force this?), has zero obligation to actually defend the realm (But might somehow deter other foreign powers from attacking). Did we mention the mere ask is implying the new government is starting out so thoroughly corrupt to require an outside government to police our nation? (Because our Paladin/Noble and anyone we appoint is corrupted by the power and cannot possibly establish a lawful government capable of limiting bad influences... To be protected by a foreign power that is based upon lawful evil precepts...) Everything you might dislike about the police, triple that, and add no recourse for any miscarriage of justice - there is no court of law, lawsuits, or grievance process. They become the Spanish Inquisition, beholden to their own leaders and pursuing whatever cause they want. Speak out, you disappear in Gestapo style.

Sorry, but the idea is ludicrous to me. It begs the question, why are we bothering establishing any kingdom if we are not actually ruling/leading anything? We're abdicating all law enforcement to an outside entity that gets to decide what it chooses to enforce and doesn't answer to ANYONE in the actual kingdom. Might as well declare ourselves a Theocracy and be done with it, give the leadership role to the Hellknights or become a colony of Cheliax.

I agree with Erlin on this fact, Ursion is a good guy, but this idea is illogical in every sense of the word and we don't have much good reputation for the rest of the orders (Hellknights - knights of Hell, an infernal plane of inherent EVIL, and let's not forget the contract lawyer Asmodeus, aka the Lord of Lies, known for manipulative contracts to his own advantage).

Also, realistically, by the time they build the structure (Years, not months, but years! Unless Ursion is proposing we pay magic users to expedite the process. He'll need an architect, engineers, craftsmen, and laborers) there is no promise anyone shows up any time soon. And by the time there is a garrison, we will have firmly established the kingdom, have a militia, basic laws, and at least one growing city/trade center/capital.

Anyways, the "Hellknights" have zero skin in the game. Period. A single knight is not representative of supporting our cause. Our group has bled, suffered huge losses, and is handling all the hard work. I cannot see any one of us going, great we did the work, get the titles, and then hand off the kingdom we bled to build to an outside organization that can easily choose to turn on us.

I'm sorry, but the idea of a virtuous evil order that never ever becomes corrupt is insane. Evil is self-serving, and if there are no checks on their power, they will become corrupt. And if anyone argues this is impossible, then why can our "good" guys become corrupt?

I understand the original purpose was to thwart "naughty corrupt" nobles in another kingdom because laws were not enforced. But if we follow the logical conclusion, the enforcers become the dictators and true power eventually.


I applaud the character wanting to establish a chapter house like a good hellknight, but from a logical game stance, this should be a slap in the face for everyone else.

If this should be the course of action, I cannot see Renee sticking around. She'd find another safe haven. She's already a walking traumatized scar of bad nations that tolerates evil and inhumane behavior. She's sane and logical enough to not stick around for more bad behavior.


On a side note, I'm surprised nobody has realized just how badly traumatized Renee is to exude her emotionless deadpan persona. Considering her species is highly emotional and very curious.

Ursion's argument it that we do it because it's effective.

Consider real world Knightly Orders that thrived for hundreds of years on the boundaries of the Christian world.

The King of England could not command a contingent of Knights Templar to go collect taxes for him in Scotland, but he obviously had a lot of influence and could work with the Orders Grand Master to conduct operations in the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Why did Monarchs tolerate and contribute to these Orders? There were many reasons, some of them cultural or religious, but it was also because they attracted professional veteran warriors, and they were self sufficient.

In the terms of Golarion, the Stolen Lands and the River Kingdoms are a backwater. The party has a representative of a very large, very well organized military order in their ranks already.

Instead of starting from scratch with a handful of local adventurers and Johnny Hayseed the volunteer (or conscript), they can bring in world class professional help from the outside.

As Ursion already pointed out...they are not an arm of the Cheliax government. They are an independent military order. There is also no reason for them to be the sole military or law enforcement branch in the Kingdom. They can supplement.

Original Renee was strongly Lawful Neutral, so is Ursion, they really like structure. They really like careful examination and rules. The Hellknights are pretty much as Lawful as one gets in Golarion.

Some are evil, yes,..But there are also Lawful Good Hellknights...it's the "lawful" that matters in both cases.

I would think they would be on the same team in this, especially as he has been the only one to delve into her more personal thoughts and experiences.

Perhaps we're thinking too big; if Ursion were to establish, say, a small chapterhouse with a pallisade, and a barraks for about 20 Hellknight trainees, with himself as their leader, as a small supplement to the country's indigenous forces, that would be doable.  But even that is going to take some time, effort, and money to create, and we have to establish trade, and things to actually trade, before we can begin building anything.

That's a great point Erlin.

This scene was partially because I wanted to get in some RP before we rinse and repeat with another combat.

But this is all way down the line stuff. Starting small, like you say, would be a perfectly acceptable solution in Ursion's eyes.

Of course, we are all thinking long-term here, which I love, BUT we need to think in the short term.  We really aren't establishing anything until we can actually clear out this place and possibly make friends along the way as well.

In reply to Ursion Korvonan (msg # 18):

Renee is quite Lawful Neutral. We are bringing order to a very chaotic realm.

My point is we are asking for this lawful group to come in and be above the authority of the lawful government we decide to put into place. At that point, we are just typical murder hobos clearing a dungeon for some other entity to take over. I don't want to set up a puppet government.

If the idea was presented as "I want to bring in a chapter house to have more military might to make others think twice about invading, but they won't interfere in our affairs" that would be more palatable to me.

But here, let me quote this:



You can call it a lawful organization, but quite frankly, the wording there makes the organization actually rooted in evil. If the means justify the end, then anything is permissible. Lawful Neutral would focus on enforcing the letter of the law in an evenhanded manner. Lawful Good would focus on enforcing the spirit of the law through the lens of goodness, with circumstances taken into consideration.

Everyone likes to focus on the Golarion wording and what has happened, but let me throw out this logical conclusion based upon the exact wording we have. If Lady Lebeda's death would remove the chance for civil unrest and chaos due to war and a peaceful transition to the enemy leader, then the Hellknights would do that by their own charter.


That all said, those are my opinions. Renee is separate from me, but as much as she is for order, she will have reservations about taking their lawful authority and delegating it to someone else without any chance to take it back. A government should be orderly, should be able to make corrections, and enforcing laws is a big factor in showing that laws matter.

The description in the write up is accurate, and I would hope that Ursion's portrayal has been consistent with that world view.

The Order of the Scourge in particular is concerned about the just and even creation and application of the Law, which complements your views of Law Neutral.

But it does not have to be all or nothing. You have an aspiring Hellknight in your ranks, he is going to want to do Hellknight stuff, and he is entitled to an equal share of the reward.

So do you want to compromise with him? Or shut it down completely? These are both viable paths to go down, and he will react appropriately. The game will not stop in its tracks either way, Ursion will just adapt and continue to further his own motivations and goals.

Perhaps even leading to interesting events in the future, if we get that far.

It's all part of the story. But which path will they take?

You'll see that Renee is not completely opposed to the idea, she just doesn't want an autonomous organization enforcing laws within a kingdom without the consent or authority granted to them (And the ability to take back that authority if necessary). Renee is a survivor of a 'no morality kingdom', so she has some baggage and issues she has to process.

I am interested to see where the RP actually takes the game. I personally have never played Kingmaker (Or much of Pathfinder itself), so I'm learning as we go along. I don't want to stifle your character goals either.

For character development, I'd love to get Renee to peek out of her shell more. But I think that will require something of a push. Whether Erlin, Ursion, or one of the others wants to partake of the building/drama there remains to be seen.

Oh I would definitely like to continue the deeper interaction between Renee and Ursion, and I think her partial opposition will certainly be a facet of that.

Hopefully some more opportunities will present themselves.

As for stifling goals, I feel that as Urion is the more "difficult" concept, it would be incumbent upon me as his Player to acquiesce should his goals become too fractious for the group, or if they start demanding too much time.

Sort of the bargain I made with myself, and to some part the GM, when I pitched it.

Very good.

I'm still getting a feel for Renee but deep down, I think she realizes she's lacking intimate connections with people (Hence the small gestures towards Ursion). But a barrier is she never had a proper father figure (She was an asset and experiment), and her mother, yeah, that is a brutal past there of a lot of hurt! She has no true connection to her gender, her species as a whole, and her coping mechanism that served her well to survive those circumstances, is actually a block to forming any sort of healthy relationships with others.

She has to have a catalyst to break down and let all that bottled emotional hurt out. But I'm not exactly sure what that will look like. Or she continues on, and something else develops. I guess that's the fun of RP, uncertainty!

I don't want to interrupt but let me know when you're ready to move on from your internal discussions. I have stuff to post but I fear it will just get buried with all the chatter going on. It is great you guys are engaging with one another, it is every GM's dream to see this kind of party interaction but I cannot keep up with you so this is me taking a step back and when you're ready I'll push things along again.

I think we are just about there GM.

Sounds like we are all on board with trying the bandit camp again.

Please feel free to fire at will unless something more serious gets brought up.

Taking a look at the mission list... But I'm onboard with the group decision.

Ive got some bedtime reading to do. Drama and heated discussions over alignment in the community thread means I am backlogged on my reading here.

Yay all caught up and it seems the main convo is dying down. Sorry for going dark but the last thing I wanted to do was interrupt an important discussion with like 8 NPCs talking about their day :D

I will get a big update going tomorrow morning. Stay tuned!

Nice update.

So what do you say gang...

Twin Axes or the Company of the Rose?

I think we should now call scorpions Owch Crickets...

I don't know which option sounds better (Been long hours at work). Whatever fearless leader says. ;)

I say we go for the Twin Axes and see if we can get the one Svetlana knows alive. If we can accomplish at least one task with minimal effort/fight that is a boon in my book and we might be able to do so with that one.

Sounds like a plan

With that in mind we might want to see if Svetlana has anything that could help convince the girl to come peacefully. I'll likely have Radgonda post to that effect when I get home from work tomorrow, as I am actually heading to bed now.

I am good with Twin Axes first and will participate / follow any ambush / trap plans!

Let me know when you're ready to move out.

1) Ursion did you ask about an armor order? Do you have the gold to complete it?

2) Is anyone buying rations. My notes shows the group is out of food.

Maybe we should spend a day hunting and smoking meat

1) Ursion did you ask about an armor order? Do you have the gold to complete it?

He did ask, yes, but he is unfortunately short by 550gp. Might need to wait till after this next raid.

Unless anybody would like to extend him a loan to get the fighter a serious AC boost?

I would be willing to give up some gold.

I agree with hunting and getting meat.  Though we could probably do that as we make our way to the camp.  We can buy some rations so we have something.

Yeah there is at least 3 of us capable of hunting, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem, unless the area has no game.  We should have some trail rations left over from the previous bandit camp, and 'general camp equipment' too, likely pots and pans and such.  And Erlin is willing to toss some moolah to the Big Fellah if it helps keep his hide intact.

So you would rather spend days gathering supplies than a few gold pieces? 2.4gp gets you a weeks worth of supplies.

Meanwhile hunting and gathering takes about 8 hours a check and provides food based on DC: DC 10 base + 1 person for every +2 on your check.

Hmmm, I guess we'll buy our rations.

For sure!

Oh I do love stirring the pot...

Stir that pot!

Uh, unless we are dirt poor or sick of trail rations, we should just buy the supplies and be done with it.

So is the new plan to go recruit the fey to help scout the camp?

Well, we can go to the camp, and if we come across the fey we helped we will try to recruit them; otherwise I think we're just going to try to attack the camp.  I am guessing we will not get Kesten and his men to help us?

As a player, I'm assuming Kesten's role is to protect the outpost for us and nothing more.

If our travel path takes us near the fey, then recruiting whatever aid we can would be smart. Otherwise, tackle the bandits as planned.

Yeah, I figured as much

Seconded

Yep

Kesten's duty is to protect the outpost. You can always try and convince him otherwise but it would have to be convincing to put his men and mission at risk.

Thanks for the clarification.

Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to fey or bandits we go! (Oh, wait, sorry, that's Erlin's job!)

Pick a hex and I'll get you moving.

B4 the radishes

Yum! Radishes!

Just an FYI GM, I am still awaiting Svetlana to answer this.

@Radgonda - Answered.

@Erlin - What are you doing at the radishes? Or are you just passing through on the way to the  bandit camp?

Just passing through; we haven't done anything with the mites yet so they won't help us...

Yes, just passing through on our way to the bandit camp.

Okay, I'm just gonna share this:

Burning Hands * - Renee's trademark
Crafters Fortune - The target is struck by inspiration and gains a +5 luck bonus on its next Craft skill check. (Haven't seen much on the crafting front, is this being used at all?)
Identify (Cause knowing is half the battle!)
Mage Armor * - How she's not dead (2 hours!)
Monkey Fish - Uh, why did she choose this? Your hands and feet alter to make you better at climbing and swimming. You gain a 10-foot climb speed and swim speed.
Shield (More AC)
Summon Monster 1 (Summon fluffy to attack!)

Spell: Windy Escape (Me only, harder to kill for 1 round!)
Spell: Enlarge Person - Increased weapon damage by 1 step and reach, but minimal advantages. (Honestly, it's like they nerfed the rules to neuter this spell, Medium to large is +8 Strength, +4 Constitution, -2 Dexterity, and usually a natural armor increase). The variant version put out by Distant Horizons Games captured this effect to actually be useful.

2d6 to 2d8 - you get maybe 2 more points of damage on average. You to hit bonus is a wash - +1 Str -1 Size. Unless you have combat reflexes, the extended reach of 10' isn't going to do more that grant you own AoO when a creature closes for melee.


I'm sure there was a valid reason, but some of the spells don't sound very handy considering Renee's purpose... Why increase your movement for Swim and Climb, unless that is going to grant the +8 bonus for those skills, otherwise a -1 to both skill checks is an automatic "Nope, no way, not gonna do that!"

Direct Attack - Burning Hands
Indirect Attacks or actions - Summon Monster I
Defense: Mage Armor & Shield

Utility: The rest with various circumstantial uses...

I mean, I don't play wizards often, but relying on one spell for offense is a recipe for trouble.

Erlin - Summon Monster is the best Renee has, but due to a duration of 2 rounds, and has to be within 30' of Renee, probably not going to be useful.

I'm gonna be honest, Enlarge Person doesn't have as much use as I'd like. Any recommendations for the group collective?

Monkey fish???

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic...pells/m/monkey-fish/

Well I would trade Monkey Fish out for grease, great battlefield control, and would work great for handling a lot of mooks coming our way.

I would also take snowball or magic missile instead of enlarge.

Perhaps expeditious retreat would be good as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:28, Mon 10 May 2021.

I want a good old fashioned Fireball - wait til I get Spell Kenning!

To figure out how the traps are being marked you would need to encounter more of them, FYI...

I like what Ursion said.  I act the scout and tun off stealth isnt needed.  Falco could be hidden as he is more stealthy than I, I believe, and him and I make the ambush/lead to traps.

The rest, Radgonda, Ursion, Renee, and Erlin see about attacking anything left.  Though if there are too many left for the 4 of you, you wait in my opinion and let Falco do the scout and I the ambush next.

You all should be watching though in the case way too many follow after us.

I love it when I title a thread correctly. It took me several attempts to get it right this time but I think I've got you guys pegged pretty well at this point :D

Haha.  So for now we are trying to find other traps before we split away into teams.

Tosk and Falco his wolf and in the other, everyone else.  So I think you can move us a little forward.

Stay frosty u guys...

Hoping we did not lose new Falco.

Needed a new new Falco would just get confusing.

Although maybe they would finally give him a character description ;)

He is away in my other games as well so he is really away not just this game.  GM want to OM him if you haven't?

If Renee gets any frostier she'll be giving people the cold shoulder! :P

Some people like that sorta thing. lol

Sure. All I need is for someone to state a plan. I'm seeing thoughts in the other thread but nobody has given orders yet. Who is going along the road and who is going to try and curve around?

Erlin is stealthy too; she should lead the group going around about 30 feet ahead as a scout, just in case the bandits are prepared.  She will have her bow out and notched with an arrow, and she will take 10 if she can to move silently through the brush.

Renee is sticking back. She is not a stealthy or sneaky type.

Okay the leader needs to give the order..  Radgonda go for it!

Ooooh, order some pizza too!

Lots of topping!

Yeah, I need someone somewhere to explicitly post "These people are doing X, these people are doing Y"

Also do it quick because I am getting antsy and when the DM gets antsy he tends to do things like bringing down a stampede of owlbears...

I would happily have Ursion do it, but I honestly don't know what you have in mind.

Send one up, skirmish, lure them back out along the road and hopefully into more traps? Theoretical ones that they might have set up?

Everest from Mountain Mike’s. At least a large and probably want a soda.

And a stampede of owl bears sounds decidedly deadly.

and clams.  Everyone loves a clam bake!

There, order made. Lol

You guys are silly. Lol

Question: How will Falco and Tosk know that the rest of the party is in position? It is going to take them several hours to circle around.

To paint the picture you're in the middle of pretty thick woods and are pretty much forced to follow game trails which is where the bandits have laid their traps.

If the other party circles around it is going to take them miles and hours of travel and in the end neither side will be able to see the other for coordination. You can put Tosk and Falco on a timer and hope that the other party isn't delayed otherwise you will need some way to send the go-ahead.

Ursion is taking a step back in this one, going to give Radgonda a chance to show her leadership style.

I drew a crude map because I think I don't completely understand:



The bandit camp in the middle, the line north is the trail w/ traps.

Is the idea that you split the party between A and B so you lure then into the traps and then to the side and the rest of the party is right there in a pincer?

OR is the idea that you split the party between like A and D so that while all the bandits are charging at Tosk and Falco the rest of you enter an empty or near empty camp?

OR is the idea that you expect the bandits will only send out a small party to attack Falco and Tosk, so it's like 1/3rd leave and 2/3rds remain behind?

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The question is because if you split the party between A and B then you'll be on the same battlemap maybe a few hundred feet apart.

If you're splitting between A and C/D/E you'll probably end up on two different battlemaps because of the distances involved.

You make it sound as if this camp is the size of a small town. Hell you can walk accross Chicago in several hours.

I spent most of my military career in the Infantry, and we spent a lot of time in the woods. Unless this camp is the size of Fort Wayne, IN of some other similarly sized small city there is no reason it should take several hours and miles to get around. A company sized Infantry element with vehicles and supplies covers a foot ball field sized area, 2 at most. The bandit camp has less people in it than a company sized infantry unit, so the camp should be no bigger than a football field. The miles and hours of travel makes no sense period. At most I'd realistically say an hour to avoid their traps. They would likely set traps for enemies near the camp, and for food and game further out.

That being said, it should take us no more than an hour to get the other three party members from A/B to D. During that time Tosk/Falco could be switching the trap markers around in the A/B area.

There is also no reason for two battle maps, a football field is only 60 hexes. There is no reason that camp should be any bigger than that. If it is, we do not need to be attacking it with only 5 people, we need to come back with a damn army. LOL!
This message was last edited by the player at 18:28, Tue 18 May 2021.

Yea between A and D for sure and all of what Radgonda said. Hehehe

Hopefully it doesn't empty for 1 orc...but if it does we will RUN while you all burn their camp after looting it.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:35, Tue 18 May 2021.

Gotta agree with Radgonda on this one...

Those are some fair points. Let me explain a bit further:

1) Travel Time: I'm assuming that you're going far enough away that doesn't require stealth checks and as mentioned this is not nearly as easy to traverse as an open city. You're either having to forge new trails or backtrack quite a ways to find other trails.

Based on my own thoughts (you can walk about 4mph vs. hike 2mph) I'm assuming you move at about half speed. I may have forgotten about the horses but let me show my math so we can get on the same page:

50ft speed = 100ft a round = ~16 2/3 feet/sec = 11 miles per hour

Halving that = 6 miles per hour.

Perception DC is +1/10 ft. To pretty much guarantee absolutely no chance of being spotted or heard let's say 500 ft buffer around the ~100ft camp which gives us a radius of 550ft. This gives us a total circumference of 3,455.75ft (0.654498mi) and half that means you're walking 0.325 miles but I will round that up to 0.5 miles because even at hiking speed you're going to have to backtrack or slow down even further as you're not following trails.

So a 0.5 mile ride at 6 miles per hour = 5 minutes.

Even if I double or triple the distances or penalties to movements we're still looking at < 15 minutes to get into position.

Point to Radgonda.

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2) Separate battle maps: The map I have is 100ft x 150ft so the question becomes how many traps are you intending for them to hit or how far are you planning on luring them north? If you're only luring them about 50' North that would mean they're only going to hit 1-2 traps.

I guess I was thinking that this would be a much longer "lure north" and makes me happy I'm asking these questions now instead of getting everything setup wrong.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:18, Tue 18 May 2021.

Completely different topic:

Swap out Monkey Fish for Grease (I think that is far more beneficial for the game)
Swap out Enlarge for Snowball (Cause, it fits the Cold Shoulder motif :P )

Renee is ready!

@Renee can you PM me your full list of memorized spells. My notes are badly out of date apparently.

Apologies for the delay. Getting this one set up is taking some time.

No worries. I know the feeling *all* too well!

Added a map for context. The black squares are the pit traps.

I think it's safe to assume that Ursion is going to be easily detected in his full plate.

For the sake of convenience we can plan on him being easily detected.

Do Falco and I find a marker for the traps?  If not then we will just have to hope that they don't quite remember where the traps are.

Not sure if I needed to roll stealth check but here it is. 08:23, Today: Tosk rolled 10 using 1d20+2 with rolls of 8.  stealth.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:23, Sun 23 May 2021.

Sorry I thought I had mentioned that but I wrote a lot of stuff that got deleted.

Yes there are markers. From the direction of the bandit camp there are stones placed that indicate a trap about 20ft ahead of it so that coming towards the bandit camp there are no warning markers but coming from the camp out you can see them and move around them. You can just move those stones to the side and hope they don't remember where they dug them. It has only been a couple of days so they'll get a Will check to remember.

Here is Ursion's roll.

12:56, Today: Ursion Korvonan rolled 8 using 1d20+1 with rolls of 7.  Stealth Check 60'.

ooof...I mean...no there isn't much to say about that. Full armor in the woods does not make an ambush...

Fool of a Took!  Throw yourself in next time!
~ Angry Gandalf

Hey, if they pay attention to him and NOT Renee, I count that as a win. ;)  Also, prep - cast Mage Armor, and then ready with a Grease for in front of Ursion (Cause trying to fight and not fall is hilarious). Blast Furnace to the face following that (I mean Burning Hands) and then Renee will high tail it to a safe distance because she's a glass cannon!

Hopefully, that will make the stoic non-stealthy oblivious one survive and shine in the battle. ;)

You are a gem Renee.

I was thinking I might be somewhere like AI2 on the map...
This message was last edited by the player at 20:05, Thu 27 May 2021.

Of course... The man Renee was trying to help WOULD rush off into danger... Alas, I guess I have to follow...

He's not going to do is much good back there unfortunately...

Feel free to grab some cover?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:26, Fri 28 May 2021.

@Erlin: Noted.

Nice.

Unless I am mistaken however, Ursion should be at 22 AC.

GM: correction for spell list prepared. Replace Windy Escape with Grease.


@Erlin, I saw MA and thought, darn right we are Most Awesome.

If we can adjust the position of Erlin on the map I can pick out a target to fire on...

That's fine. Wiggle away.

Can we go again or we waiting for an update?

Apologies, I am here just slammed from work and life.

Oooooh, it nice to get slammed from time to time...

Sorry, had to say it.

Slammed eh? Ursion just slammed a bandit. :P

It that a longspear or are you happy to see me?

lol... Such a nice longspear.

Side note, we need a nice portrait for Ragonda!

Also, GM... For some tokens:

Ursion likes to get his slam on early and often...

Outstanding work on the tokens Renee!

That's some bonus xp material in my opinion...

So did the bandits do anything with round 1?

Nice tokens!

Yes the bandits are doing stuff. No I am still playing catch up. Those are damn fine tokens.

Map is updated. I know some of you started posting your next round actions so it is up to you if you want to keep them or re-do them.

You may have missed my previous nudge DM.

Ursion's AC is now 22, which may have altered that last round

Did the map revert? I went to get the updated coordinates and it looks like the pre-assault setup.

Also, not sure what Ragonda really wants far as a picture (and better, less blurred token). So, I went and found a few potential candidates, with Black hair, short if possible:

1:


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Wow. A lot of great choices in there.

I vote 13 or 23!

I'm also a fan of 23

23 for me too though there are a few nice ones.

Well, our opinions are nice, but ultimately it’s Ragonda’s player who gets to decide. There are easily hundreds of better portraits that can be used. Those choices are flavored by my preferences and biases based upon the one portrait from RPOL. Alas, that leaves little indication onto the bias and preferred appearance the player has. The player might have a completely different photo.

But I am glad everyone enjoys the selections.

We might as well pick one for Falco too, if we can get a third player to take him over.

Looking forward to getting back into the rythm of combat. Once our DM adjusts Ursion's AC he might come away less injured that he was. Although I am not sure.

We are Falcoless again?

No posts since April, so it seems to look that way.

There are several good images there to be honest. :) Pretty hard to decide between them all and the few I've found myself. lol

As to Falco missing, I've noticed that myself. Maybe it might be time since that is one of the characters we seem to cycle players through like candies, we she consider a new character altogether?
This message was last edited by the player at 22:57, Mon 14 June 2021.

I'm here...just getting busy at work.

@Ursion: AC corrected. That saves you 4 hp

@Falco: I think it is time to just boil the game down a player. I have no real incentive to bring a new player in only to roll the dice with them and possibly have them leave as well. I am very happy to run the game with 5 or even 4 players.

I am afraid I have to agree about letting Falco go.

Maybe some day in the future we find someone else..

Yeah, that may be best.

Considering the "ideal" party size was meant to be four PCs, I don't think letting Falco go is necessarily a bad thing. Though, decreased party size increases potential for lethal encounters. We're all squishy still and one critical hit or a couple of good hits away from dropping or dying. That extra body can make all the difference.

@Ragonda - You can use 3-8 pictures, whatever makes you happy. Just choose one for your token and I'll update the Token for our GM to use in Maptools. :)

I've updated my combat post GM.

Thanks!

We can alter our last round of Posts?

I would not kind transferring that damage to the leader...

I updated my combat post to actually say where Renee moved. The actions never changed. Renee intention was blasting the two fighting Erlin and Ragonda. I added coordinates and actual damage. And cause I’m nice I showed a picture of the update.

Pretty much you  can edit anything until I post my updates.

I'll let you know on the image Renee, especially as I try to tweak Radgonda to feel more like my PC and not someone elses. lol

Also, is this the leader we should be trying to keep alive for Svetlana?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:31, Thu 17 June 2021.

I believe it is.

Blanket general statement. My real life has gotten very busy these past two weeks. Work stuff, some people were let go and I'm picking up their slack. I think it is dying down as this week looks pretty calm and in general until mid-July things should drop back to normal.

I am still here. I am still dedicated to play. My free time ebbs and flows and this is an ebb time. I will update when I can but try to have some patience with me this month.

Juuuust gives me time to work on my Only Fans site: Sexy Siren of the Stolen Lands!

Huh, think we could talk the GM into a synergy bonus between Profession: Pornographer and Craft: Bookbinding?

It would make our next dinner in Brevoy that much more interesting....

LOL, you da pimp, eh? :)

Hey, the Enforcer feat works with any blunt weapon, canes included.

Life and death battle to porn eh? Very interesting…

Hahaha GM no problem buddy.  We aren't heading anywhere except the brothels...

Just a heads up, this week I'll be camping or intermittent internet.

Renee will be doing her cantrip attack to support her team if any intent is required for the remaining rounds.

Thanks!

It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce the closure of this game. When I started it I had plenty of time but my work has shifted and it shows no signs of letting up. I just do not have the time, and more importantly, the energy to maintain this large number of games so I am forced to consolidate.

I enjoyed running this game and I am very sad to see it shut down prematurely. You are fantastic writers and while we did not get to develop things too far this group had fantastic chemistry and I am really, really sorry to see it come to an end.

It sucks, it really does but I have to be honest. It is a disservice to continue limping along with a few posts here and there. You deserve a better game than that and unfortunately I am no longer in a position to provide that for you.

Thanks for running it, and thanks for letting us know instead of just letting it die on the vine.

Best of luck with your other projects, and maybe we will see each other down the road.

As for our other players, it has been a pleasure. I would be up for continuing if we could find another DM, but I know that's an unlikely prospect.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:25, Mon 05 July 2021.

Erlin has a sad...

If you want to put the call out I am more than happy turning the reigns over to someone else.

Ah heck... never get far in these pathfinder games.

I know the feeling man.

I reached out to the only player O knew that might be a good fit for GM, and they are too busy at the moment.

Looking like we should probably just call it.

Or we leave it and perhaps he comes back to it at a later date?

Yeah I am willing to let this sit for a while, and come back, if no one can DM.  I really can't as I have to find a new place to live, and am packing up to leave my condo, I have barely any time to even post...

While I cannot pick up any new games, I'm happy to invite you all to any of my games I'm running.

Hit me up on Discord: LegacyKing#4957 and we can hook you into other games with excellent writers/players.

I tend to do the classless and 3.5e. But I let people pull in pathfinder characters.

Let me know.

Cheers!

I'm trying to find time to start up my homebrew Pathfinder, or I'd take up running this one. lol

That and work's been playing hell with me lately too.