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OOC THREAD.

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The GM
GM, 1 post
Wed 10 Mar 2021
at 14:56
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OOC THREAD

OOC THREAD

Okay, so so far I've grabbed a bunch of "Lifepath" tables and stuff and chucked it into the Workshop thread. Now to start organizing it, straightening everything out, and removing what I don't want and adding what I do want...
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:59, Wed 10 Mar 2021.
phantom
player, 1 post
Wed 10 Mar 2021
at 17:29
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WOW, you weren't kidding about the dump of tables :)

I did a brief scan and I like the romantic encounters table :)  That was actually well written.  I was genuinely surprised.

There is a lot of good stuff and some that we can probably ditch.
One thing before we get too deep, which system are we going to be using for Attributes?  I like the idea of a standard array.
What are going to be the standard Attributes?

When I get home from work, I will throw some attribute ideas into workshop thread.  And it won't simply be the D&D attributes.  I have several ideas on that for a bit more.  But not too many :)
The GM
GM, 4 posts
Wed 10 Mar 2021
at 18:25
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phantom:
WOW, you weren't kidding about the dump of tables :)

I did a brief scan and I like the romantic encounters table :)  That was actually well written.  I was genuinely surprised.


None of it is mine (yet), it's from different systems. Traveller turned out to be too sci-fi for what I wanted. Most of the tables you see are from Harnmaster or Artesia.


phantom:
There is a lot of good stuff and some that we can probably ditch.


Yeah

phantom:
One thing before we get too deep, which system are we going to be using for Attributes?  I like the idea of a standard array.
What are going to be the standard Attributes?


Mmmmm. I hadn't thought about that until this second, but my favorite is as follows:


--Forceful = tough and strong
--Agile = agile and/or sneaky
--Insightful = noticing things, remembering things, and figuring things out
--Charming = fast talkers and/or leaders
--Confident = doing things confidently and/or with focused concentration (extra-important for Sorcerers, Clerics, Druids)


In terms of the Amber game that Jon is in:

--Forceful = STR and CON
--Agile = DEX
--Insightful = INT and Perception
--Charming = CHR
--Confident = Willpower
phantom
player, 2 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 02:29
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Well if we are going to get detailed backgrounds, we should have some Attributes to match.
Here is a merging of what you put and some of the ones I like together:

Strength (STR) = This is your muscular capability to lift, climb, push, pull, carry, swing melee weapons / shields and melee damage.
Physique (PHY) = This is your constitution and endurance.  So resistances to fatigue, poisons, exertions, etc.
Agility  (AGL) = This is your dexterity, hand/eye coordination, ability to hit with range weapons and damage, light melee weapon alternative use.
Intelligence (INT) = This is your raw intellect, knowledge, logic and general problem solving.  Also affects how many and how well you can learn / train.
Wisdom  (WIS) = This is your comprehension, insight, intuition, know how to apply and extrapolate knowledge.
Damage Capacity (DC) = This is you ability to take damage before you pass out, then die.
Charm   (CHR) = This is your charisma, ability to speak, debate, negotiate, bluff, lie,  Charm
Appearance (APP) = This is your looks, how handsome / pretty
Anima (ANI) = This your base connection to Magic (Arcane, Divine, Psychic, Primal); depending on how we implement magic, this is either a bonus to the roll or could be a trackable resource.
Perception (PER) = This your awareness of things through the physical senses, esp, sight, sounds, to detect things not immediately obvious and your base investigative ability.
Willpower (WILL) = This is your mental fortitude to both resist mental assaults, but also to bounce back from physical and emotional trauma, ability to push yourself beyond your limits.

Luck (LCK) = This is how lucky you are; either neutral, good or bad and is GM applied bonus to rolls as seems appropriate.
Note: This is an optional Attribute; but it can be very fun; even at character creation. Alternatively, we can take this mechanic completely behind the scenes and we roll to determine how lucky a character is or isn't and then give them bonuses or penalties for various things.  But hiding it could detrimental.  Though setting luck to a 1d6 so it is 1 = -1, 2 = -2, 3-4 = 0, 5 = +1, 6 = +2.  Now the luck bonus of +2 doesn't necessarily mean a +2 to one thing.  But it could be a +1 on the Roll itself and -1 on her opponents check; the net result is still that +2.

Now some of these can be "calculated" if you like by average 2 or more of the others and rounding down.

I am assuming we are staying with the 2d6 system for Rolls.  I would suggest we use that to generate numeric values of our attributes as well.
Assuming a Max of +/-3:
2 = -3
3 - 4 = -2
5 - 6 = -1
7 - 9 = 0
10 - 11 = +1
12 - 13 = +2
14+ = +3
The GM
GM, 6 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 03:13
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phantom:
Well if we are going to get detailed backgrounds, we should have some Attributes to match.
Here is a merging of what you put and some of the ones I like together:



I just don't see the need to make it this complicated.

It seems to me:

Strength (STR) = Forceful
Physique (PHY) = Forceful
Agility  (AGL) = Agile
Intelligence (INT) = Insightful
Wisdom  (WIS) = Insightful/Confident
Damage Capacity (DC) = Forceful
Charm   (CHR) = Charming
Appearance (APP) = Charming
Anima (ANI) = Confident
Perception (PER) = Insightful
Willpower (WILL) = Confident

Luck (LCK) = not needed-- you're rolling dice... (Although I might do something with star sign...)


phantom:
I am assuming we are staying with the 2d6 system for Rolls.


Yeah, I think so, for stat rolls...

phantom:
I would suggest we use that to generate numeric values of our attributes as well.
Assuming a Max of +/-3:
2 = -3
3 - 4 = -2
5 - 6 = -1
7 - 9 = 0
10 - 11 = +1
12 - 13 = +2
14+ = +3


Uh... No... I like:

Ability Modifiers
Score Modifier
1-3 -3
4-5 -2
6-8 -1
9-12 0
13-15 +1
16-17 +2
18 +3
phantom
player, 3 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 04:46
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The GM:
It seems to me:

Strength (STR) = Forceful
Physique (PHY) = Forceful
Agility  (AGL) = Agile
Intelligence (INT) = Insightful
Wisdom  (WIS) = Insightful/Confident
Damage Capacity (DC) = Forceful
Charm   (CHR) = Charming
Appearance (APP) = Charming
Anima (ANI) = Confident
Perception (PER) = Insightful
Willpower (WILL) = Confident


Yes, but this gives you a bit more variety in building your character.
After all you can be Charming and Ugly.
You can be Strong and have poor constitution
As with most of them, you can be one and not the other.
You can be very intelligent, but not wise enough to know how to apply it or see how it can utilized differently than what you were taught.
You can also be very wise, see connections, but not be smart enough to know what it means.

Personally, Anima, Damage Capacity, Perception and Willpower  are attributes that should be calculated based on the other abilities, because even more so they are really aggregates.  I like the Anima, because you could be a Swordsman with great magic connection / potential, so while you don't cast spells, it manifests in magic item accumulation or magic item empowerment.

I agree 100% that there needs to be a balance between too complex and too simple.

The GM:
I am assuming we are staying with the 2d6 system for Rolls.



Yeah, I think so, for stat rolls...
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That is fine, I think I am starting to get the hang of it.

The GM:
phantom:
I would suggest we use that to generate numeric values of our attributes as well.
Assuming a Max of +/-3:
2 = -3
3 - 4 = -2
5 - 6 = -1
7 - 9 = 0
10 - 11 = +1
12 - 13 = +2
14+ = +3

Well the above was based on 2d6 not 3d6, so getting a 13+ is difficult, but not impossible depending on how we do Races, Star Signs, Background, etc.

The GM:
Uh... No... I like:

Ability Modifiers
Score Modifier
1-3 -3
4-5 -2
6-8 -1
9-12 0
13-15 +1
16-17 +2
18 +3

So you want to use 3d6 for Stats? That is fine, it is traditional.
The GM
GM, 7 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 14:23
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phantom:
The GM:
It seems to me:

Strength (STR) = Forceful
Physique (PHY) = Forceful
Agility  (AGL) = Agile
Intelligence (INT) = Insightful
Wisdom  (WIS) = Insightful/Confident
Damage Capacity (DC) = Forceful
Charm   (CHR) = Charming
Appearance (APP) = Charming
Anima (ANI) = Confident
Perception (PER) = Insightful
Willpower (WILL) = Confident


Yes, but this gives you a bit more variety in building your character.
After all you can be Charming and Ugly.
You can be Strong and have poor constitution
As with most of them, you can be one and not the other.


But see, I think of stats that way anyway. You can have a +3 in CHR (like Lance) and still fail a roll. What's up with THAT? Well, must've been your personality.

phantom:
I agree 100% that there needs to be a balance between too complex and too simple.



Mm, no, I wouldn't say that. Rather, I think simple on "range of types of stats" is fine considering the complexity that will be going into everything else. THAT's where the balance will come from, from my perspective.



phantom:
The GM:
Uh... No... I like:

Ability Modifiers
Score Modifier
1-3 -3
4-5 -2
6-8 -1
9-12 0
13-15 +1
16-17 +2
18 +3

So you want to use 3d6 for Stats? That is fine, it is traditional.


Yeah. Why be complex "Y" when people are already used to traditional "X"...
phantom
player, 4 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 15:19
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The GM:
But see, I think of stats that way anyway. You can have a +3 in CHR (like Lance) and still fail a roll. What's up with THAT? Well, must've been your personality.

Mm, no, I wouldn't say that. Rather, I think simple on "range of types of stats" is fine considering the complexity that will be going into everything else. THAT's where the balance will come from, from my perspective.


This falls into the Charisma issue in D&D, when the single stats becomes both how pretty you are and how good at talking you are as if they are one and the same.  I liked the break out of how pretty you look (Comeliness, Appearance, etc.) vs. how eloquent and articulate you are and how well you can bluff (Charm).  Because it better represents a real person.

Using Lance as the example, he is very handsome and pretty (especially now).  But he doesn't seem to have the ability to speak well.  He is very good at saying the wrong things. :) He is like Wes Bentley, as my wife calls him the "Pretty" he is great to look at, but when he starts to try and act, it isn't convincing.

I don't know Lance's stats, but I can see Jon's.  Yes, his Appearance is a 10, so he is pretty and handsome, but he also is eloquent and articulate.
I like in the Amber Game that you broke Appearance Out from Charm/Personality)

They advantage we have, is that we are effectively building our own system and not bound by what is in the rules of the game.

Hmmm, how's this?
Physicality = Represents how hardy you are, how much damage you can put out in melee combat, how much you can lift and carry, etc.
Agility = Represents how dexterous you are, how much damage you can put out with ranged weapons and light melee weapons, you ability to avoid damage and slight of hand skills.
Resourcefulness  = This is your intelligence and wisdom, ability to learn, understand and apply knowledge, perceptiveness, insight and intuition,.
Confidence = This is your mental fortitude and inherent aptitude for Magic (Arcane, Divine, Psychic or Primal), represents how well you can recover from mental and physical trauma.  This is the image that you portray.
Charm = this is your ability to talk, act, bluff, negotiate.  But also how you carry yourself.
Appearance = this is your physical beauty and can affect how people react and treat you even before you say or do anything
The GM
GM, 8 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 15:35
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phantom:
The GM:
But see, I think of stats that way anyway. You can have a +3 in CHR (like Lance) and still fail a roll. What's up with THAT? Well, must've been your personality.

Mm, no, I wouldn't say that. Rather, I think simple on "range of types of stats" is fine considering the complexity that will be going into everything else. THAT's where the balance will come from, from my perspective.


This falls into the Charisma issue in D&D, when the single stats becomes both how pretty you are and how good at talking you are as if they are one and the same.  I liked the break out of how pretty you look (Comeliness, Appearance, etc.) vs. how eloquent and articulate you are and how well you can bluff (Charm).  Because it better represents a real person.

Using Lance as the example, he is very handsome and pretty (especially now).  But he doesn't seem to have the ability to speak well.  He is very good at saying the wrong things. :) He is like Wes Bentley, as my wife calls him the "Pretty" he is great to look at, but when he starts to try and act, it isn't convincing.

I don't know Lance's stats, but I can see Jon's.  Yes, his Appearance is a 10, so he is pretty and handsome, but he also is eloquent and articulate.
I like in the Amber Game that you broke Appearance Out from Charm/Personality)

They advantage we have, is that we are effectively building our own system and not bound by what is in the rules of the game.

Hmmm, how's this?
Physicality = Represents how hardy you are, how much damage you can put out in melee combat, how much you can lift and carry, etc.
Agility = Represents how dexterous you are, how much damage you can put out with ranged weapons and light melee weapons, you ability to avoid damage and slight of hand skills.
Resourcefulness  = This is your intelligence and wisdom, ability to learn, understand and apply knowledge, perceptiveness, insight and intuition,.
Confidence = This is your mental fortitude and inherent aptitude for Magic (Arcane, Divine, Psychic or Primal), represents how well you can recover from mental and physical trauma.  This is the image that you portray.
Charm = this is your ability to talk, act, bluff, negotiate.  But also how you carry yourself.
Appearance = this is your physical beauty and can affect how people react and treat you even before you say or do anything



Mm, no, I think I'll do it my way.

If this causes you to feel that you don't want to keep offering input, I'd completely understand. If you wish, I'll remove you from this game (workshop).
The GM
GM, 9 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 16:20
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I mean, look at this goofiness:

https://rpggenerator.com/centralcasting/
The GM
GM, 10 posts
Fri 12 Mar 2021
at 00:05
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The GM:
I mean, look at this goofiness:

https://rpggenerator.com/centralcasting/


I mean, you can see my point. That has the potential to be super cool, but when the WHOLE process is ENTIRELY randomized, it slides too close to the absurd. And yet...
phantom
player, 5 posts
Fri 12 Mar 2021
at 00:15
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I just got home and could look at that.
It is great fun.  And for a one-shot campaign or a mini-campaign, my group would have a blast with it. And I may just set that up and GM it personally :)

But for post game, having everything random is good as one option for creation.
I know we are focusing more on creation, but then we want our players to live with them and care about them, correct?
Sorta like the SIMS?
The GM
GM, 11 posts
Fri 12 Mar 2021
at 14:22
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phantom:
I just got home and could look at that.
It is great fun.  And for a one-shot campaign or a mini-campaign, my group would have a blast with it. And I may just set that up and GM it personally :) 


Yeah, I can see that

phantom:
But for post game, having everything random is good as one option for creation.


It SHOULDN'T all be random, BUT yeah, I do want to make it so that the player CAN just roll randomly on any given part if they feel indecisive or just want to be goofy that way...
phantom
player, 6 posts
Fri 12 Mar 2021
at 14:31
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The GM:
It SHOULDN'T all be random, BUT yeah, I do want to make it so that the player CAN just roll randomly on any given part if they feel indecisive or just want to be goofy that way...


I am with you there.  I'd prefer to pick and choose.  But also have the option for random is fun.  D&D 5th did that, they have these Ideals, Bonds and Flaws, which are a basic set that are all marked as a 1d10.  You can either pick and choose, make up you own that fits the framework or roll for it.

I like your idea of keeping the random as an option.
The GM
GM, 12 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:40
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...How should xp work?

--like in the Amber game, failing rolls

--you should just get xp when you finish a goal

--like in Pantheon, based on how many posts you post

Which of these do you like best?
phantom
player, 7 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 21:18
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I like a little bit of a mix, to be honest.
I do like the XP for failing important/relevant rolls.  But I also think you should get XP for completing missions.

So a particularly easy mission, you might get 1 XP, because you didn't fail any rolls.  Or you failed everything, so you gained XP but since you failed the mission you don't get completion XP.

If you mix failing and succeeding rolls and ultimately succeed, you should get both.  Because you learned something on mission (failure XP) and you still accomplished the mission (Completion XP).

This to me gives a balance and kind of reflects real life.
phantom
player, 8 posts
Fri 26 Mar 2021
at 03:09
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The Fighter entry, is that supposed to be that you get ONE of those Three at level 1 and then you can add for free one of the others at level 2 and level 3?
The GM
GM, 16 posts
Fri 26 Mar 2021
at 13:51
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phantom:
The Fighter entry, is that supposed to be that you get ONE of those Three at level 1 and then you can add for free one of the others at level 2 and level 3?


No. That was VERY much a quick and clumsy start to a work in progress by me. I've updated it-- you should find that it makes a lot more sense now.
phantom
player, 9 posts
Fri 26 Mar 2021
at 14:01
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Indeed, it make more sense now :)
The GM
GM, 17 posts
Fri 26 Mar 2021
at 16:25
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phantom:
Indeed, it make more sense now :)


Just edited that post to include my take on Paladin; see what you think
The GM
GM, 19 posts
Sat 27 Mar 2021
at 20:08
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Just edited and made big changes to the rules in the MOVES AND CLASSES thread
phantom
player, 10 posts
Sun 28 Mar 2021
at 01:16
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OK, I will take a look :)

Work has had med frazzled, so I apologize for not giving more feedback.
I hope to work though some of it tomorrow.
phantom
player, 11 posts
Sun 28 Mar 2021
at 13:36
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Here is some feedback / suggestions so far:

Defend - Call it a reediness pool vs. Hold.
Or Defense Pool.

Aid - in the line "...only keep the best 1 die..."  change that to "...only keep the highest roll from amongst..."


Take Watch - this is one of the few where I think we need more than 3 outcomes.
--On a 10+, you notice in time to alert everyone and prepare; everyone in the camp takes +1 forward.
--On a 9, you notice in time to alert everyone and is prepared.
--On a 7-8, you’re a few moments too late; you manage to alert everyone, but nobody has time to prepare. They have weapons and armor but little else.
--On a miss, whatever lurks outside the campfire’s light has the drop on you.


Stress and Health & Rest.
In Rest, you have two rolls to regain stress and health.
But in Stress and Health, there is only 1 pull, Stress which represents your heath.

I think it would be unique to have a Separate Stress Pool & Health, as indicated by the Rest Move.  And have the Stress represent psychological trauma vs. physical trauma.
The psychological effects can affect the physical, like providing negatives to rolls.
And if you lose all of your stress pool, then it does start eating into you physical health pool.

I love the chart for the Freak out.


Level up:
I recommend removing XP Generation from the Level description.
And just define level up as:
When you have an amount of xp equaling 4 plus your current level, and you Rest, you can also Level Up, which means you may either add a point to a stat, or else you can add a new special ability (with GM approval) (or possibly improve one you already have-- talk to the GM about it).

The question becomes what all do you get for leveling?  There are some freebies based on class from what I've read so far.  Then you get to pick one thing (a Stat Bump, a new non-class move, anything else?).  Does the health and stress increase with level?
If not, then do away with levels altogher and use XP to buy abilities and moves.
There is no level, you advance because you've picked up new skills and abilities.


For all of the classes:
Recommend rewording "AFTER LEVEL 2, YOU CAN ALSO ADD THESE MOVES, ONE BY ONE:" to be more like either:
"Starting after reaching Level 2 and each level there AFTER, YOU CAN ADD one of THESE MOVES:"
Or "Starting with/at/upon reaching level 3 and each level there after, you can add one of these Moves:"
It makes it more clear and I have two options because it is not 100% clear to me which it is.

Some General Thoughts
Why would the Fighter, a melee genius, get a bonus 2 stree on ranged combat?
It would make sense that they get it on the Melee.  Leave Range as normal.

You are making the Ranger an Archer class, so give them the bonus 2 stress on ranged attacks, but not on melee.  After all if they are good, especially elven archers moving through the trees unseen and un heard, launching volley's of arrows.  That is is a good psychological stressor.

And for the paladin, perhaps grant a +1 stress to melee and a +1 stress to Range (vs. a +2 to either) to represent not only their prowess but their faith.

And for the Barbarian, grant the +2 Stress to both Melee and Range, but (if we go with the Stress Pool separate from health) permanently reduce Stress by 2.  Or apply a -1 to the hit rolls, because they are reckless.

Hope you find this useful.
The GM
GM, 21 posts
Sun 28 Mar 2021
at 15:00
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phantom:
Here is some feedback / suggestions so far:

Defend - Call it a reediness pool vs. Hold.
Or Defense Pool.


The term "Hold" is from Dungeon World, and since I seem (like many other people have tried) to be attempting to make DW 2.0, I'm gonna keep it.


phantom:
Aid - in the line "...only keep the best 1 die..."  change that to "...only keep the highest roll from amongst..."


It did sound just a little odd the way I had it, you're right. I've now changed that part slightly.


phantom:
Take Watch - this is one of the few where I think we need more than 3 outcomes.
--On a 10+, you notice in time to alert everyone and prepare; everyone in the camp takes +1 forward.
--On a 9, you notice in time to alert everyone and is prepared.
--On a 7-8, you’re a few moments too late; you manage to alert everyone, but nobody has time to prepare. They have weapons and armor but little else.
--On a miss, whatever lurks outside the campfire’s light has the drop on you.


...Huh! ...Makes sense to me... I have now changed it to match what you just said.



phantom:
Stress and Health & Rest.
In Rest, you have two rolls to regain stress and health.
But in Stress and Health, there is only 1 pull, Stress which represents your heath.

I think it would be unique to have a Separate Stress Pool & Health, as indicated by the Rest Move.  And have the Stress represent psychological trauma vs. physical trauma.
The psychological effects can affect the physical, like providing negatives to rolls.
And if you lose all of your stress pool, then it does start eating into you physical health pool.


No, because my whole point is to combine them. But you're right that the REST move was written before I decided to combine, so now I've changed the REST move, too.


phantom:
I love the chart for the Freak out.</Orange>


Good. I just added to it just now, too.


phantom:
Level up:
I recommend removing XP Generation from the Level description.


As GONNA CHANGE THIS NEXT STUFF is supposed to show, the Level Up move is a work in progress... that I've hardly even started working on yet.

Buuuut maybe it's time now to work on it...

Okay, worked on it...


phantom:
The question becomes what all do you get for leveling?  There are some freebies based on class from what I've read so far.


Yeah, I just clarified that just now with:

If you choose a new move from another class that says you deal stress differently from the class you started with, you may use whichever one works better for you in a given situation.


phantom:
  Then you get to pick one thing (a Stat Bump, a new non-class move, anything else?).


Both, actually. Except it can also be an advanced move from your current class, if you want.


phantom:
  Does the health and stress increase with level?


HP DOES slowly increase with level, thanks for reminding me... Okay, added.




phantom:
For all of the classes:
Recommend rewording "AFTER LEVEL 2, YOU CAN ALSO ADD THESE MOVES, ONE BY ONE:" to be more like either:
"Starting after reaching Level 2 and each level there AFTER, YOU CAN ADD one of THESE MOVES:"
Or "Starting with/at/upon reaching level 3 and each level there after, you can add one of these Moves:"
It makes it more clear and I have two options because it is not 100% clear to me which it is.


Oh, I see what you mean, there is something a little awkward about the way it is now...


...Changed.

phantom:
Some General Thoughts
Why would the Fighter, a melee genius, get a bonus 2 stree on ranged combat?
It would make sense that they get it on the Melee.  Leave Range as normal.

You are making the Ranger an Archer class, so give them the bonus 2 stress on ranged attacks, but not on melee.  After all if they are good, especially elven archers moving through the trees unseen and un heard, launching volley's of arrows.  That is is a good psychological stressor.


I suppose it should be that the Fighter is a genius of PHYSICAL combat. But... you have a point. I had doubts about the way I had it...

...I guess I might change my mind (back) later, but for now, I think you've talked me into it...

...Okay, I've changed it. All fighters (so far) now do 2 stress in melee combat, and only 1 in ranged, UNLESS the roll result was 12 or higher, and then it's 2.

Rangers are the exception-- they're the opposite. 2 ranged, 1 melee, unless the result was really good.



phantom:
And for the paladin, perhaps grant a +1 stress to melee and a +1 stress to Range (vs. a +2 to either) to represent not only their prowess but their faith.


...? I don't quite understand what you're suggesting.



phantom:
And for the Barbarian, grant the +2 Stress to both Melee and Range, but (if we go with the Stress Pool separate from health) permanently reduce Stress by 2.  Or apply a -1 to the hit rolls, because they are reckless.


I am not going with stress separate from health.
phantom
player, 12 posts
Sun 28 Mar 2021
at 19:52
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The GM:
phantom:
And for the paladin, perhaps grant a +1 stress to melee and a +1 stress to Range (vs. a +2 to either) to represent not only their prowess but their faith.


...? I don't quite understand what you're suggesting.


Since Paladins are Religious based fighters, meaning they that are not straight combat.  So instead of the +2 to melee and with the update +1 to Range.  I am suggesting that they get just a +1 to both Melee and Range.  Because they will also get some divine powers.

I would actually take a look at D&D 4th Ed cleric / templar class' abilities and powers for inspiration.  For some reason, they felt the clerics should be melee heavy.  But many of their abilities would've worked better for Paladins.


The GM:
phantom:
And for the Barbarian, grant the +2 Stress to both Melee and Range, but (if we go with the Stress Pool separate from health) permanently reduce Stress by 2.  Or apply a -1 to the hit rolls, because they are reckless.


I am not going with stress separate from health.


Since the Stress and Health are now the same (still not sure how I feel about that).  I would give the Barbarians, +2 to Stress for both Range and Melee, but also a -1 to attacks with Range and Melee to balance it out.  Perhaps even limit them to medium types of armor.


I'm not familiar with DW, so I made suggestions that make more sense to me :) and probably will continue to.  Thank you for the info!
The GM
GM, 22 posts
Sun 28 Mar 2021
at 22:44
  • msg #26

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
The GM:
phantom:
And for the paladin, perhaps grant a +1 stress to melee and a +1 stress to Range (vs. a +2 to either) to represent not only their prowess but their faith.


...? I don't quite understand what you're suggesting.


Since Paladins are Religious based fighters, meaning they that are not straight combat.  So instead of the +2 to melee and with the update +1 to Range.  I am suggesting that they get just a +1 to both Melee and Range.  Because they will also get some divine powers.

I would actually take a look at D&D 4th Ed cleric / templar class' abilities and powers for inspiration.  For some reason, they felt the clerics should be melee heavy.  But many of their abilities would've worked better for Paladins.


Hmmmmmmm. Tempting... But... I dunno... I'll put this possibility on the back burner for now...


phantom:
The GM:
phantom:
And for the Barbarian, grant the +2 Stress to both Melee and Range, but (if we go with the Stress Pool separate from health) permanently reduce Stress by 2.  Or apply a -1 to the hit rolls, because they are reckless.


I am not going with stress separate from health.


Since the Stress and Health are now the same (still not sure how I feel about that).  I would give the Barbarians, +2 to Stress for both Range and Melee, but also a -1 to attacks with Range and Melee to balance it out.  Perhaps even limit them to medium types of armor.


Well see, they CAN wear up to medium if they want, but they're designed to work BEST without ANY armor. (see recent updated moves). But actually they CAN'T wear heavy armor without the penalty.



The GM:
I'm not familiar with DW, so I made suggestions that make more sense to me :) and probably will continue to.  Thank you for the info!


This is the now-classic Dungeon World...  https://drive.google.com/file/...eW1GRVVaNnRfbnc/view
The GM
GM, 25 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 15:17
  • msg #27

Re: OOC THREAD


Hey man could I interest you in trying the Small Quick Experiment with me real fast (comparatively speaking)...?
phantom
player, 13 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 15:35
  • msg #28

Re: OOC THREAD

Sure, what's up?

I am assuming it is the "Experiment thread"

I am confused in Step 3 with this: Then roll 2d6. If the phrase is one of that player's 5 advantages, add 2 to the roll result. If the phrase is one of that player's 3 disadvantages, subtract 1 instead.

Are you saying that if the roll on 1d39 was one of the 8 we choose (5A / 3D), then add 2 to the roll or subtract 1 to the 2D6 to see how well we dealt with it?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:55, Tue 30 Mar 2021.
The GM
GM, 26 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 16:13
  • msg #29

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
Sure, what's up?

I am assuming it is the "Experiment thread"

I am confused in Step 3 with this: Then roll 2d6. If the phrase is one of that player's 5 advantages, add 2 to the roll result. If the phrase is one of that player's 3 disadvantages, subtract 1 instead.

Are you saying that if the roll on 1d39 was one of the 8 we choose (5A / 3D), then add 2 to the roll or subtract 1 to the 2D6 to see how well we dealt with it?


Yes... (Was there some alternative possibility that that suggested to you...? If so, what was it, so I know how to clarify...?)
phantom
player, 14 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 16:34
  • msg #30

Re: OOC THREAD

The GM:
phantom:
Then roll 2d6. If the phrase is one of that player's 5 advantages, add 2 to the roll result. If the phrase is one of that player's 3 disadvantages, subtract 1 instead.

Yes... (Was there some alternative possibility that that suggested to you...? If so, what was it, so I know how to clarify...?)


Initially it seemed like we were rolling the 2d6 to see which of the 8 items we picked would be used in the beginning of the adventure.  But that didn't add up, so it confused me.

As for clarification:
Take the result above and roll 2d6 to determine how well or poorly your character handled the event. If the phrase rolled is also one of the player's 5 advantages, then roll 2d6+2. If the phrase is also one of the player's 3 disadvantages, then roll 2d6-1 instead.
phantom
player, 15 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 16:40
  • [deleted]
  • msg #31

OOC THREAD

This message was deleted by the player at 17:15, Tue 30 Mar 2021.
phantom
player, 16 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 17:17
  • msg #32

Re: OOC THREAD

OK, so now that both of us have gone, wouldn't be just do step 3 and 4 until we conclude the story?
Do we want to indicate an end or just keep going until we run out of ideas.
The GM
GM, 28 posts
Tue 30 Mar 2021
at 17:35
  • msg #33

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
OK, so now that both of us have gone, wouldn't be just do step 3 and 4 until we conclude the story?


phantom:
Do we want to indicate an end or just keep going until we run out of ideas.


The instructions, near the end, suggest that we each take 7 turns, but I'm open to more, or fewer, if you wish...?
The GM
GM, 30 posts
Wed 31 Mar 2021
at 16:07
  • msg #34

Re: OOC THREAD

The GM:
phantom:
OK, so now that both of us have gone, wouldn't be just do step 3 and 4 until we conclude the story?


phantom:
Do we want to indicate an end or just keep going until we run out of ideas.


The instructions, near the end, suggest that we each take 7 turns, but I'm open to more, or fewer, if you wish...?


your turn
The GM
GM, 38 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 18:59
  • msg #35

Re: OOC THREAD


And, experiment concluded!

I think it turned out pretty well!

What did you think?

Also: maybe I should remove "keeping watch" from the list? It seems sort of too passive...?
phantom
player, 23 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 20:26
  • msg #36

Re: OOC THREAD

I enjoyed it.  And for an ad hoc round robin writing game, it was really good.  I like trying to string the random rolls of the event and success levels together into a story.

I agree, I think we need to look at the list and remove some of the passives one or expand them so that they aren't as passive.
The GM
GM, 39 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 21:14
  • msg #37

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
I enjoyed it.  And for an ad hoc round robin writing game, it was really good.  I like trying to string the random rolls of the event and success levels together into a story.

I agree, I think we need to look at the list and remove some of the passives one or expand them so that they aren't as passive.


1. Well I've removed "Keeping Watch..." what others seem, to you, possibly too passive?

2. Also, should I maybe increase the Advantages and Disadvantages one chooses? From 5/3 to 7/4, perhaps...?
phantom
player, 24 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 16:50
  • msg #38

Re: OOC THREAD

Well, first.  Yes if we want to increase the change of getting a bonus or penalty, I think the increase of 5 to 7 Advantages and 3 to 4 Disadvantages would be good.  I could even see it being 8 Adv and 5 Disadv. which would be about 34% of the current 38 total options.

We could possibly remove the following:
A safe place
A warning that someone left
Helping each other

These could be condensed into "Buying or finding a rare thing":
An old book/scroll/map
An amazing work of art
A useful gift
The GM
GM, 41 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 18:38
  • msg #39

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
Well, first.  Yes if we want to increase the change of getting a bonus or penalty, I think the increase of 5 to 7 Advantages and 3 to 4 Disadvantages would be good.  I could even see it being 8 Adv and 5 Disadv. which would be about 34% of the current 38 total options.


...Whaaaat if I said "How about if we do it again, and test out 8 and 5?"


phantom:
We could possibly remove the following:
A safe place
A warning that someone left
Helping each other


I think I agree that the first two are indeed too passive. I want to leave "helping each other" though.


phantom:
These could be condensed into "Buying or finding a rare thing":
An old book/scroll/map
An amazing work of art
A useful gift


I don't want to condense all three, but I think I'll combine "An old book/scroll/map" and "a useful gift" into: "An old book/scroll/map or some other potentially useful thing"

What do you think of that? Too long? I don't think so... But I want your opinion...
phantom
player, 25 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 20:35
  • msg #40

Re: OOC THREAD

So let's start at the end and go up.

No, I don't think "An old book/scroll/map or some other potentially useful thing" is too long, I think it gives a better writing hook.

I won't argue leaving in "Helping each other", but I will comment that it seems like the group is already helping each other.  As such I would propose adding in "Hindering each other"

Let's update the list and then I am game to trying it again with the 8a / 5d, but let's also reduce it to 5 rounds this time.
The GM
GM, 42 posts
Sat 10 Apr 2021
at 13:40
  • msg #41

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
So let's start at the end and go up.

No, I don't think "An old book/scroll/map or some other potentially useful thing" is too long, I think it gives a better writing hook.

I won't argue leaving in "Helping each other", but I will comment that it seems like the group is already helping each other.  As such I would propose adding in "Hindering each other"


Yeah, but I want things to be open. Specifically, I want a certain amount of moves to be capable of being interpreted as combat moves.

I'm leaving it for now, and we'll see what happens...

phantom:
Let's update the list and then I am game to trying it again with the 8a / 5d, but let's also reduce it to 5 rounds this time.


Hmm, okay I'll try that (too). Stand by...
The GM
GM, 50 posts
Mon 12 Apr 2021
at 20:58
  • msg #42

Re: OOC THREAD


I still think "more than 5" rounds is better, but I also think it went better this time.

Advantages/disadvantages still didn't come up much though. Should we increase? 9/5? 10/5? 10/6? 11/6?
phantom
player, 32 posts
Mon 12 Apr 2021
at 23:36
  • msg #43

Re: OOC THREAD

Yes, I can agree the 5 rounds seemed to go way to fast.
So yeah 7 seems good.

I'm not sure if increasing it is a good idea.
I really depends on how often you want one of them to come up.

With the 8/5 combo, we each had 38% of the possibilities covered.  And combined, more than that because you had ones I didn't and I had ones you didn't.

With more people than two, you are more likely to have someone have one come up.
The GM
GM, 51 posts
Tue 13 Apr 2021
at 15:21
  • msg #44

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
Yes, I can agree the 5 rounds seemed to go way to fast.
So yeah 7 seems good.


Yeah

phantom:
I'm not sure if increasing it is a good idea.
I really depends on how often you want one of them to come up.

With the 8/5 combo, we each had 38% of the possibilities covered.  And combined, more than that because you had ones I didn't and I had ones you didn't.

With more people than two, you are more likely to have someone have one come up.


Yeah, but if one of YOUR advantages comes up on MY turn, the way the rules are written now, it doesn't count.

Should it?
phantom
player, 33 posts
Tue 13 Apr 2021
at 17:37
  • msg #45

Re: OOC THREAD

The GM:
Yeah, but if one of YOUR advantages comes up on MY turn, the way the rules are written now, it doesn't count.

Should it?


Hmmm, it would make sense for a group to synergize.  So if it one of the writing partner's advantage, then you get a +1 to the roll.
And for disadvantages a -1 for partner's disadvantages.
The GM
GM, 52 posts
Tue 13 Apr 2021
at 20:15
  • msg #46

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
The GM:
Yeah, but if one of YOUR advantages comes up on MY turn, the way the rules are written now, it doesn't count.

Should it?


Hmmm, it would make sense for a group to synergize.  So if it one of the writing partner's advantage, then you get a +1 to the roll.


That makes sense to me actually

phantom:
And for disadvantages a -1 for partner's disadvantages.


Hmm, not sure I want that, actually...

Wanna try to talk me into it? Or no?

And if no... should it maybe be 9/6?
phantom
player, 34 posts
Tue 13 Apr 2021
at 20:24
  • msg #47

OOC THREAD

Well, if we look at it from the team perspective, it would make sense.
I see as the character trying to cover for another party members' deficiency, which is why it is a -1.

This gives the potential for a range of +3 to -3 if Advantages and Disadvantage stack.

So if you have two people good at melee, and that comes up they would get a +3.
If you have two people terrible at melee and that comes up they would get a -3.

But when you start getting 3+ people, you can get some really interesting rolls with many probably being at a +/-1 as an average.
Yet can get some spectacular successes and failures.
The GM
GM, 53 posts
Tue 13 Apr 2021
at 20:44
  • msg #48

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
Well, if we look at it from the team perspective, it would make sense.
I see as the character trying to cover for another party members' deficiency, which is why it is a -1.

This gives the potential for a range of +3 to -3 if Advantages and Disadvantage stack.

So if you have two people good at melee, and that comes up they would get a +3.
If you have two people terrible at melee and that comes up they would get a -3.

But when you start getting 3+ people, you can get some really interesting rolls with many probably being at a +/-1 as an average.
Yet can get some spectacular successes and failures.


Hmmmmmmmmmm.

...Wanna try 7 rounds of it that way...?
phantom
player, 35 posts
Tue 13 Apr 2021
at 22:33
  • msg #49

Re: OOC THREAD

Sure, so to sum up the rule changes:
9 Advantages
6 Disadvantages

If you roll an advantage of another player, then add +1 to the roll; this stacks if it is also your advantage.
If you roll a disadvantage of another player, then subtract -1 to the roll; this stacks if it also your disadvantage.

Correct?
The GM
GM, 56 posts
Wed 14 Apr 2021
at 20:09
  • msg #50

Re: OOC THREAD


Oops. Was it not my turn to post first? I guess not?
phantom
player, 38 posts
Wed 14 Apr 2021
at 21:05
  • msg #51

Re: OOC THREAD

I apologize, I thought you went first last time.
The GM
GM, 57 posts
Wed 14 Apr 2021
at 21:39
  • msg #52

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
I apologize, I thought you went first last time.


Now, in retrospect, I think I did, actually. But then when you posted a character but didn't start, that just reinforced to my brain And here's his character, so now I can start... so let's see...

Like that.
The GM
GM, 58 posts
Thu 15 Apr 2021
at 23:47
  • msg #53

Re: OOC THREAD



V.bad turbulence day for me. Took all day for turbulence to calm. Tomorrow busy though. Sat-Sun should be normal (well the new normal? Maybe?)
phantom
player, 40 posts
Fri 16 Apr 2021
at 00:30
  • msg #54

Re: OOC THREAD

No worries.  Just glad you are Ok.

Stay safe!
The GM
GM, 59 posts
Sat 17 Apr 2021
at 21:00
  • msg #55

Re: OOC THREAD


My turbulence continued today. Perhaps tomorrow afternoon will be better... perhaps not...
phantom
player, 41 posts
Sat 17 Apr 2021
at 21:09
  • msg #56

OOC THREAD

np, take care!
The GM
GM, 65 posts
Tue 27 Apr 2021
at 16:36
  • msg #57

Re: OOC THREAD



Look at this freaking awesome stuff:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/OooJNv
phantom
player, 46 posts
Wed 28 Apr 2021
at 12:00
  • msg #58

Re: OOC THREAD

:), indeed the very inspired and awesome designs.
The GM
GM, 72 posts
Thu 6 May 2021
at 18:43
  • msg #59

Re: OOC THREAD


A new version of our Experiment has been developed!

Might I get you to try a two-player version with me...?
phantom
player, 51 posts
Thu 6 May 2021
at 18:48
  • msg #60

Re: OOC THREAD

Sure!
phantom
player, 52 posts
Thu 6 May 2021
at 19:23
  • msg #61

Re: OOC THREAD

So I'm a little confused by 20's entry "20: Roll again. Add +1 to the 2d6 roll you end up making if it's Round 1, Subtract 1 if it's Round 7. (If you roll 20 twice or more, it stacks if it's Round 1, but doesn't if it's Round 7.)"

I assuming it is really this:
20: Roll again.
    If a 20 is rolled during round 1, then Add +1 to the 2d6 roll.  If you roll a 20 a second time, add an additional +1 for a max bonus of +2.
    Continue rolling until you get something other than a 20.
    If a 20 is rolled during round 7, then Ass -1 to the 2d6 roll.  There is no additional penalties applied.
The GM
GM, 74 posts
Thu 6 May 2021
at 21:26
  • msg #62

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
So I'm a little confused by 20's entry "20: Roll again. Add +1 to the 2d6 roll you end up making if it's Round 1, Subtract 1 if it's Round 7. (If you roll 20 twice or more, it stacks if it's Round 1, but doesn't if it's Round 7.)"

I assuming it is really this:
20: Roll again.
    If a 20 is rolled during round 1, then Add +1 to the 2d6 roll.  If you roll a 20 a second time, add an additional +1 for a max bonus of +2.
    Continue rolling until you get something other than a 20.
    If a 20 is rolled during round 7, then Ass -1 to the 2d6 roll.  There is no additional penalties applied.


Yes BUT you're wrong about the part in Red. There's no limit on Round 1. If you roll 20 4 times in a row, add +4.
phantom
player, 54 posts
Fri 7 May 2021
at 14:24
  • msg #63

Re: OOC THREAD

OK, great :)
Thanks for the clarification
The GM
GM, 81 posts
Sun 9 May 2021
at 19:41
  • msg #64

Re: OOC THREAD


Added (and then updated) Druid, and also added the MY MIGHTY STEED move for the Paladin.

What do you think?

I feel I need more good moves for Berserkers, too... any ideas/suggestions?

For any class so far, for that matter...?
phantom
player, 59 posts
Mon 10 May 2021
at 13:52
  • msg #65

Re: OOC THREAD

I will try to read over the updates this week.

But in general, let figure out how to break down the classes into components.
Then we can figure out how to balance the classes and make sure we have moves that correspond to the components.

Now this is just a class creation piece, not something meant for the players.

I see the classes being made up of 3 components:
Physical = 34* (Default / Balanced)
Mental   = 33 (Default / Balanced)
Mystical = 33 (Default / Balances)
Total    = 100
*The extra 1pt can be moved to any of the 3 and it would still be the default / balanced.

The goal is to keep 100 pt, but vary the totals to help understand our classes at their base or initial level.  It doesn't mean that through play that these ratios must be maintained; that isn't the point.
I see nothing wrong with a fighter leveling up and taking Mystical focused moves.


As an example a fighter, they would probably be 50 Physical, 40 Mental and 10 Mystical.
A Mage on the other hand would be 10 Physical, 40 Mental and 50 Mystical.

We should then break our moves down into these same categories, this will help us develop them and keep them balanced between each component (i.e. 5 physical, 5 mental, 5 mystical) all with comparable results.

It is just meant as a tool to understand our intent with the classes and organize the moves so that we have a balance of the moves.

A berserker, mike be 75 Physical, 10 Mental and 15 Mystical.  Because the Berserker is calling on the animal spirits for power.
So it makes sense that they have more physical and mystical oriented moves.

With the moves, perhaps we focus on make two or three moves that are exclusive to the class, but the rest be general
The GM
GM, 85 posts
Tue 11 May 2021
at 18:48
  • msg #66

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
I will try to read over the updates this week.

But in general, let figure out how to break down the classes into components.
Then we can figure out how to balance the classes and make sure we have moves that correspond to the components.

Now this is just a class creation piece, not something meant for the players.

I see the classes being made up of 3 components:
Physical = 34* (Default / Balanced)
Mental   = 33 (Default / Balanced)
Mystical = 33 (Default / Balances)
Total    = 100
*The extra 1pt can be moved to any of the 3 and it would still be the default / balanced.

The goal is to keep 100 pt, but vary the totals to help understand our classes at their base or initial level.  It doesn't mean that through play that these ratios must be maintained; that isn't the point.
I see nothing wrong with a fighter leveling up and taking Mystical focused moves.


As an example a fighter, they would probably be 50 Physical, 40 Mental and 10 Mystical.
A Mage on the other hand would be 10 Physical, 40 Mental and 50 Mystical.

We should then break our moves down into these same categories, this will help us develop them and keep them balanced between each component (i.e. 5 physical, 5 mental, 5 mystical) all with comparable results.

It is just meant as a tool to understand our intent with the classes and organize the moves so that we have a balance of the moves.

A berserker, mike be 75 Physical, 10 Mental and 15 Mystical.  Because the Berserker is calling on the animal spirits for power.
So it makes sense that they have more physical and mystical oriented moves.

With the moves, perhaps we focus on make two or three moves that are exclusive to the class, but the rest be general



None of this seems illogical to me...
The GM
GM, 94 posts
Thu 20 May 2021
at 20:01
  • msg #67

Re: OOC THREAD



Added THIEF.



Also added:

Fighter move BRUTAL COURAGE

Berserker move REVENGE

Cleric move DIVINE AID



thoughts?
phantom
player, 71 posts
Fri 21 May 2021
at 16:37
  • msg #68

Re: OOC THREAD

I apologize, I haven't had a lot of spare time to dive into the classes.
It is much easier to craft a post than a deep dive into system building.

I have some vacation time coming up.  I hope to have the mental capacity to dive in and get caught up.
The GM
GM, 96 posts
Fri 21 May 2021
at 17:19
  • msg #69

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
I apologize, I haven't had a lot of spare time to dive into the classes.
It is much easier to craft a post than a deep dive into system building.

I have some vacation time coming up.  I hope to have the mental capacity to dive in and get caught up.


Fine by me.

The classes are something I do as a reward when I'm caught up...
phantom
player, 72 posts
Fri 21 May 2021
at 17:48
  • msg #70

Re: OOC THREAD

Thank you.  I feel bad that I haven't had the time.
I don't like breaking my promises.  And I DO find creating classes and skills fun, but draining.
The GM
GM, 100 posts
Sat 12 Jun 2021
at 19:39
  • msg #71

Re: OOC THREAD

phantom:
Thank you.  I feel bad that I haven't had the time.
I don't like breaking my promises.  And I DO find creating classes and skills fun, but draining.


That's it for the classes...

I think I'll work on a little world-building next... geography, etc. ...

...You still interested...?
phantom
player, 73 posts
Mon 14 Jun 2021
at 12:46
  • msg #72

OOC THREAD

Yes, I am still interested.  Time has been the issue for me.
Lately by the time I am done with work, my brain is mush and I can't even focus on prep for my games (D&D and Vampire).
My vacation over the Memorial Day was consumed by Honey Do items and I never had time to sit, read and think.

Yes, I am super interested, what I've read is a great start.  There are some tweaks and such that I think we need.  But I don't have a concrete suggestion at the moment.  I posted the Development Idea on how we can keep things relatively balanced.

And I would be interested in making the Classes less of a Class and more a group of options after level 1.  But I don't have exact Idea on how yet.
Some half baked thoughts mostly.  Also I would like the idea of Level 0 for the characters.

Level 0 would be character creation adventure that lead them to pick their starting class and the life of an adventurer.  I did this with a D&D group and they loved it.  Based on their adventure a couple changed what their character's class and options were going to be.

I have some half baked thoughts on that as well.

I apologize that I haven't had the time to dedicate to this as I and you would like.
The GM
GM, 102 posts
Tue 6 Jul 2021
at 22:01
  • msg #73

Re: OOC THREAD


Added new advanced Warlock power, "To Bring Forth A Nightmare."
The GM
GM, 103 posts
Wed 7 Jul 2021
at 17:35
  • msg #74

Re: OOC THREAD


Added new advanced Berserker ability:

Good For What Ales You: When you drink enough to get drunk, you can also heal 1 stress. ...You will, of course, also get drunk. The results of being drunk may vary somewhat depending on WHAT you've been drinking, but the most common result is often -1 to Agile, -1 to Insightful, +1 to Confident.
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