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OOC.

Posted by CerebroFor group 0
Cerebro
GM, 7 posts
Fri 9 Dec 2022
at 18:44
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Since we have a couple players now, this would be a good place to chat.
Monet St. Croix
player, 1 post
Fri 9 Dec 2022
at 19:07
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Hey other player. Nice to chat with you!
Monet St. Croix
player, 3 posts
Sat 10 Dec 2022
at 17:24
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Don't wait for me to post. There's no hooks for me to respond to, so I'll just wait in the background for a while
Cerebro
GM, 9 posts
Sun 11 Dec 2022
at 20:36
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I think perhaps I hadn't correctly set where we are in terms of backstory there in that first post.

- The students met Cordelia two days ago.

- We met Mondo for the first time two hours ago. Part of retrieving him allowed him to display his powers (he could turn into/merge into concrete and water which helped win the battle).

- The students so far (M, Jubilee, Husk, Chamber, Skin, Synch and Blink) have been here for only a month. They should know the faculty.

- All the students except Cordelia, Mondo and Chamber were kidnapped by machine aliens called the Phalanx about a week before they came here.
Monet St. Croix
player, 7 posts
Sun 11 Dec 2022
at 20:57
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Thanks. I actually guessed most of that from the IC stuff so it was fine.

This reads very much like the start of the comics with just enough difference to make it 'ours'.
Monet St. Croix
player, 8 posts
Sun 11 Dec 2022
at 21:15
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I edited the last post to capture the fact we've seen him in a fight
Cerebro
GM, 10 posts
Mon 12 Dec 2022
at 21:28
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I think I need to bring in a different teacher to this situation.

Maybe Banshee, Morph or Mimic?
Monet St. Croix
player, 10 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 06:13
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I don't actually know Morph or Mimic. Banshee and Emma are the only ones in the early part of the school I think. (And I quite like Banshee)
Serendipity
player, 7 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 06:22
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Unless they are brought in to interact with PC's there's not much point
Monet St. Croix
player, 11 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 10:17
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Well... how about doing some sort of lesson?

I don't think I'm going to be able to help Cordelia at all. Perhaps someother story arc?
Serendipity
player, 9 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 10:32
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In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 10):

Reads like Monet could use some help from Cordellia.

Grin
Monet St. Croix
player, 12 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 10:41
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Can I ask why?

I've made my Moroccan tea and had a chat with the joint head-mistress. I don't think I currently have any stated goals other than to 'come to school and learn stuff'. I'm currently pondering whether to set some goals. None are leaping out at me from the comics, but I can always invent something
Serendipity
player, 10 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 11:24
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In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 12):

For the same reason that you thought Cordellia needed help.
Monet St. Croix
player, 13 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 11:38
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I'm dense. I was in the kitchen getting a drink...

If you mean out of character reasons sure. But we need a goal. I'm traveling today so I'll post something this evening
Cerebro
GM, 11 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 18:16
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The point of adding additional staff that weren't in the comic is to present a wider variety of NPCs for you to interact with.

That way your only teachers aren't a frigid and self-centered woman and a drunk disciplinarian.

You also have a clown, a bully, a playboy and a drug addict. And the nice doctor who hasn't done anything too unethical... yet.

We could run the Penance story or the Chamber story.
Monet St. Croix
player, 14 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 23:07
  • msg #16

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Got it. I don't know Chamber at all (other than he blew his face away) and the Penance story would be awkward I think.

I think I would prefer a 'your story'. Or perhaps 'A day in the life'. In the comics we only see the horrible bits. We rarely see a lesson in the school, or what people do in their 'not fighting bad guys'.

Sorry for not posting more: been traveling for 14 hours so I'm a bit blasted
Cerebro
GM, 12 posts
Tue 13 Dec 2022
at 23:31
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Well, you both seemed to have no interest in talking to Mondo despite repeated prompts that it would be the best thing for both of you to do.

Serendipity seems to have missed that Cordelia wouldn't even have a room at the school yet and this scene was supposed to be for her to use her wiles to earn a permanent place in the school and thus get her own room and start forming her own clique within the students.

So this whole scene really kind of devolved and its obvious that this was a bad way to start things off. I should have just started us off past this point with the fourth change to the comic storyline-- that Cordelia wasn't told to never come back, but was installed into the students as an unstable element alongside Mondo.

So we have more teachers at the school, Blink didn't die and ended up going to the school, Cordelia joined along with Mondo and this all happened before we met Chamber and Penance.

Now-- the idea for Penance here is going to be different from the comics. She'll be a 100% entirely separate person from M. She'll be some deaf/mute girl from eastern Europe who happened to have diamond skin. Emplate picked her up because she had the power of diamond skin, which he needed because the people he slaughtered in his other dimension continue to exist as spirits between this plane and his and tear at his body when he moves to that other dimension.

There is 0 connection between Monet and Penance. Which might kind of still be true as "Hollow" continues to exist as her own separate entity and would just mean that Marius trapped Monet within Hollow's body in the original continuity and then Nicole and Claudette switched places and once released-- well-- that original girl still exist.

The one retcon I might have to insist on is moving Monet back to being born in Algeria and deleting the name "Yvette" from her middle names so that this Penance girl from... I guess Serbia? Maybe Bosnia? Yugoslavia no longer exists so...

Anyway, a defeat and mute girl from southeastern Europe with diamond skin who maybe didn't always live in diamond form, but who has been so abused and traumatized at the hands of Marius that she maintains the diamond form even when her environment is "safe" despite it causing muscle atrophication.

Chamber is much more straight-forward-- just go to the Boston airport to pick up the rich British bloke whose powers blew half his face off and crippled his girlfriend. And then fight off Emplate when he tries to attack the boy.
Serendipity
player, 11 posts
Wed 14 Dec 2022
at 03:19
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In reply to Cerebro (msg # 17):


Hum

A simple You don't have a room would have changed the posts.

Repeated prompts to a PC to converse with another NPC, whilst the PC was engaged in an unresolved disagreement with a different NPC. Until it was ended by the PC slamming the door in said NPC's face
Monet St. Croix
player, 15 posts
Wed 14 Dec 2022
at 08:47
  • msg #19

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I'm as happy talking to Mondo as anyone else :) I don't have a 'specific interest' in talking to him though

Presumably he will be there for breakfast. Why don't we do breakfast :)

Cordelia's plot
Just in general: Can I suggest that you don't follow the comic books. Make this story our own. I'm not so keen to follow in the railroads of the traditional plot.

This being derailed... Awkward. I only ever RP my character unless the GM says to me 'I want you to metagame to help making this thing happen' when of course I'll have a go! Example: 'I want to kidnap you, how will that happen' or similar.  Monet's view of Cordelia (based on her and Emma's RP) is that she's an untrustworthy spoiled moody teenager who will piss off Emma whenever they meet.. so Monet absolutely wouldn't do anything to help get her a room, but would totally be happy to help her get out of the school for instance (Take her to the nearest rail station and pay for a one way ticket and a night in a hotel at the far end...)

Teachers/Students
As I mentioned in a PM I am glad Blink didn't die!

Penance
All sounds great, although at the moment I think she can't talk... so we don't need to know the backstory.

Backstory
Why? I'd strongly rather you didn't. I can find you a name generator if you want. Or she by coincidence have the same one. It would also make a tiny connection (although there are probably a million Yvette's in the game: I am RPing with one in another game for example)

Selection
 I'd like you as the GM to make your own story arcs which might or might not be based on the comics (prefereably not). My vote is we go have breakfast. And at breakfast there will be people there to chat with
Cerebro
GM, 13 posts
Thu 15 Dec 2022
at 22:15
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Well, the inclusion of "Yvette" among Monet's 5 middle names and her having been born during a period of like, maybe a week, that her parents were outside of their native country was a pretty obvious attempt to try to get the few establish facts that were ever said about Penance to match up with the idea that she was Monet all along.

Even though it made no sense for Emplate to address her by one of her many middle names or that her memories should reflect a bunch of soldiers and tanks in eastern Europe even if she was born there during a short time her family visited before returning to Algeria.
Monet St. Croix
player, 16 posts
Thu 15 Dec 2022
at 22:26
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What shall we post IC? How about the breakfast post where we can take your subtle hints and chat with Mondo?
Cerebro
GM, 14 posts
Sat 17 Dec 2022
at 19:34
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I think we are going to jump to the "meet the boy from England at the airport" story.

We can do the whole Penance thing later. I am pretty sure Penance will remain an NPC because I cannot imagine that anyone would actually want to play a deaf and mute character anyway. It would be extremely tricky to do in a non-visual RPG style.

I am just seeing if we can get one more person aboard before we do that.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:35, Sat 17 Dec 2022.
Monet St. Croix
player, 17 posts
Sat 17 Dec 2022
at 21:57
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Sure that sounds all good
Jubilation Lee
player, 1 post
Sun 18 Dec 2022
at 21:52
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Sounds Good Sentient Computer Boss.
Monet St. Croix
player, 18 posts
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 07:58
  • msg #25

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Hi Jubilation
Jubilation Lee
player, 3 posts
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 13:33
  • msg #26

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Hi Monet
Serendipity
player, 13 posts
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 18:33
  • msg #27

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Hi Jubil, got a spare stick? If so what flavour?
Monet St. Croix
player, 20 posts
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 18:37
  • msg #28

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lol

Nice start to the scenario. Looking forwards to it
Jubilation Lee
player, 4 posts
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 19:25
  • msg #29

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In reply to Serendipity (msg # 27):

I'm edgier now it's Spicy cinnamon... I regret everything
Serendipity
player, 14 posts
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 19:38
  • msg #30

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In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 29):

Yay a Cinnamon Stick: with rhythm...
Monet St. Croix
player, 22 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 14:20
  • msg #31

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Just FYI: I am trying to play Monet as per comics. Her internal thoughts aren't mine.

I think I am with Jubilation on this: expect Sentinal/Phalanx/...<insert other enemy>... action'
Cerebro
GM, 18 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 20:58
  • msg #32

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I think there has been a miscommunication. I am clearly not good at writing posts that are easy for people to follow the action of.

They left the car-- they are in front of the Terminal building. Sean is saying he'll wait in front of the building.

He is sending the rest of you into the arrivals lounge. Within the arrivals lounge there would no doubt be an array of coffee shops, restaurants, convenience stores, etc. for both people waiting for those who are on flights arriving (particularly in cases where those flights may have been delayed) and for those who have arrived only to find no one is there to pick them up yet.

There would be no need to buy any sort of ticket-- even if you did, the departures terminals are a entirely different building from the arrivals terminal. You'd have to walk to buildings A, B or C for a flight departure. Departures and Arrivals sections are completely separated with no overlap-- it doesn't work like a bus or train station.

In fact, because no one is waiting to board in arrivals terminals the only thing past any gates would be baggage claims. And then after getting your luggage, everyone would exit through the same gates.

All shops and restaurants would be outside said gates. So if he has already arrived, you'd no doubt find him wandering about in one of those. So the idea is meant to be that Sean will wait outside the main doors of the terminal while the rest of you check the restaurants and shops.

It was meant to be a chance for you to express which kinds of shops and such you decide to go to and how diligently you try to search for him.

As for Jubilee getting into a "supply closest"-- let's just say that the necessary materials were in the trunk of the SUV instead.
Jubilation Lee
player, 7 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 21:08
  • msg #33

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I'm for that wasnt sure we had a long stick or I would have searched the car instead also if the sign says "New Student" Or The Student's name depends on if we know it or not. In the future though when starting a scene it might help to include the getting out of the car in the first post. I didnt fully read they had to get to the terminal so i messed up by saying she was leaning on the wall but between the car and the terminal itself we could have been just inside so i'm only taking 90 percent of the blame lol.
Monet St. Croix
player, 24 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 21:44
  • msg #34

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It's really hard to do that! We all struggle with it

I just assumed we were waiting at the Arrivals Gate. I mean where else would you be waiting? I am so very glad you weren't doing the 'please break the law'! I like Banshee OOC (I bet it was Emma that put the zombie/trace phones on everyone)

What you say about the terminals is different to any airport I have been in (and I spend my life going through airports). But I only really go to European airports. In those all of them (that I have been to anyway) have the arrivals / departures in the same zone. And quite a bit of the layout is different to that which you describe (So Monet would have done that anyway, because she's probably not really been to many USA airports) I'll probably go buy the ticket anyway... Because Jubilation can do the waiting and there is zero point us having two people waiting.


I will delete my post and remake it. Might take a while (it's late here in the UK)
Monet St. Croix
player, 25 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 22:11
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I've edited instead of deleting. Jubilation do you want to give me that thing you were going to give Banshee?
Cerebro
GM, 19 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 22:14
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I suppose, given the background, you could try to go into an Arrivals terminal looking to buy a ticket-- but you would quickly find that there is no counter to do that there. You'd be entirely in the wrong building to do that and then, once inside the building, you'd better get your bearings?

If in-character she made some really exaggeratedly negative assumptions about the intentions of those around her before figuring out that she really went overboard assuming the worst...

My intention was more like you could all take a chance to visit other shops or choose whether to stick together or split up, get something to eat and, if so, what. Maybe start chatting among yourselves once away from an adult.

You know-- various ways to express your characters.
Monet St. Croix
player, 26 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 22:49
  • msg #37

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Monet's action
Ah I've already edited and I'm just going to lurk at the arrivals gate (unless Jubilation says something to change that)

RP options/Expressing our character
And ... I thought you had closed off those RP options deliberately (in the car you said we were not talking to each other and you teleported us to the airport, and you said 'no' to the idea of just having breakfast together for that purpose). I am more than happy to do those things, but I was trying to go with the flavour you were setting. In the post I have now mostly deleted I was trying to express my character within the constraints that were active at the time.

But fortunately it looks like Jubilation is chatting to me. It's very late here, so it will be tomorrow when I respond, but with any luck we'll get a nice chat going before the Sentinals ambush us
Monet St. Croix
player, 27 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 08:25
  • msg #38

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Just a few more European/USA differences when it comes to airports/traveling/phones

Every UK/European phone contract you can get (even cheap pay as you go) comes with Roaming nowadays (certainly the last five years). I have a pay as you go for the UK to keep my number t has $10 on it, and it comes with international roaming and data. (I've moved out of UK  but with a dual sim card I get to keep the UK number as well as have a local one). In Europe every airport wifi is free. And usually works OK.

We do pay for wifi sometimes. Usually only on the airplanes themselves. It's about $5 to get wifi on an airplane for a three hour flight. Worth it because you can download whatever movies you want.

It's interesting reading about the differences and expectation differences.
Cerebro
GM, 20 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 21:26
  • msg #39

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Should I advance the plot or would you like more time to chat and bond?
Jubilation Lee
player, 11 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 21:31
  • msg #40

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Plot Sean needs to remember he is a teacher with teenage mutant girls waiting for a teenage mutant boy in a public "muggle" environment. Unless the boy's mutant ability is talking to frogs TSA stressing him might cause a scene... If a third party doesn't attack first lol
Monet St. Croix
player, 31 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 21:35
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I'm sure no third party would attack us...

If this is chamber and half his face is missing + flames coming out... He's not getting past TSA. Just... No....

Maybe he should have asked for a lift.

In response to the question: I'm cool either way
This message was last edited by the player at 21:35, Fri 23 Dec 2022.
Jubilation Lee
player, 12 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 21:39
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Re: OOC

Monet St. Croix:
If this is chamber and half his face is missing + flames coming out... He's not getting past TSA. Just... No....


Now if this was New Jersey maybe he would half faced burny guys are a tuesday for them.
Cerebro
GM, 21 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 22:05
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Re: OOC

Well-- this is the Marvel universe and while mutants generally aren't liked, they are legally allowed to exist and have access to most facilities.

There was no doubt an uncomfortable private inspection on both ends of the flight where he had to reveal the extent of his mutant power to the security agents. I am not entirely sure if he would use his telepathy to talk to them or if he would just simply present himself as mute with paperwork explaining his particular condition.

And maybe that's why he is running behind the other passengers on the flight.

Yes, there is certainly some discomfort around the fact that he is a living bomb-- but that was no less true in 1994 when the original comic that I am taking this storyline comes from.

As for Sean staying behind saying he is just going to wait outside the terminal in case you all miss him and he walks out into the parking lot expecting someone to meet him there-- it is, yes, to transparently remove him from the scene.

But his in-world motivation can lie somewhere between him being a nearly 50-year old man whose gotten a bit lazy and that he would rather the boy's first impression of the school being greeted and picked up by a pretty girl.

And, yes, you are perfectly right to expect that an attack will happen. You should even be able to predict precisely who from.
Jubilation Lee
player, 13 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 23:10
  • msg #44

Re: OOC

Cerebro:
And, yes, you are perfectly right to expect that an attack will happen. You should even be able to predict precisely who from.


Mojo! Wait no Deadpool! Cable! Carnage being bored in New York!
Jubilation Lee
player, 15 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 19:34
  • msg #45

Re: OOC

If we ever do a multiverse arc or an original spin on the infinity war a fun idea might be we each come up with an original character but the twist is we dont play them the GM does as villains
Monet St. Croix
player, 34 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 19:46
  • msg #46

Re: OOC

I tend to be 'one character in one game'. Usually I play original characters, but I have a particular fondness for Monet. I'm good with the rest of you playing different characters though, and certainly original characters tend to come with more flair and role playing I find so I'm all for that
Jubilation Lee
player, 16 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 19:54
  • msg #47

Re: OOC

mostly i figured i'd do an uno reverse on the gm. We play canon characters wuth our spin the GM would play our creations with their spin perhaps taking our ideas in directions we'd never consider
Monet St. Croix
player, 35 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 19:59
  • msg #48

Re: OOC

Ah I see. Interesting idea.
Cerebro
GM, 22 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 21:21
  • msg #49

Re: OOC

Well, I think we should try to get through this first.

I've given you all a few days to engage in social activities, so I guess it's time to push the the plot forward.
Cerebro
GM, 24 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 16:50
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Re: OOC

So-- when a player decides to have their character do something insanely dumb that has terrible consequences that their character would be smart enough to know not to do, should I just hit you with the  consequences or double-check they really intend to do that.

Like, for example, if I see an action where someone wants to fly mach 1 about 20" above the heads of a hundred people in a crowded hallway with plenty of glass windows... just hit you with the consequence or point out that someone who can fly that fast would know not to do it that close to people they don't want to hurt?
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 16:50, Fri 30 Dec 2022.
Monet St. Croix
player, 37 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 17:40
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Re: OOC

So I didn't say mach 1. Because that would kill people and crack windows

I said very fast. Very fast covers 100 to 200 mph which isn't an act of stupidity
Monet St. Croix
player, 38 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 17:47
  • msg #52

Re: OOC

I would also like to point out comic book physics.

In marvel quicksilver (who runs a lot faster than Monet) can run around at seriously high speed without side effects. So can all the other characters.

Most of 'real world physics' has been left to 'don't worry about it'. If you are going to impose real world physics on us (which I haven't seen in any of the comics with Monet's movements) then that's fine. But please do tell us before you do that.
Jubilation Lee
player, 18 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 17:53
  • msg #53

Re: OOC

I mean flying 100 mph with all sorts of signs hanging around is kinda like


Monet St. Croix
player, 39 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 17:56
  • msg #54

Re: OOC

I travel by air a LOT. I will be in an airport last week. I will be in one next week

It's more like 'there is a huge open space really high and some people close to the ground'.  This is an international airport. International Air ports are designed for large masses of people to travel through them. The ceilings are typically very high. And there is lots and lots and lots of space.
Monet St. Croix
player, 40 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 18:01
  • msg #55

Re: OOC

Some examples



Jubilation Lee
player, 19 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 18:12
  • msg #56

Re: OOC

Counterpoint this one is so podunk it has no clear organization to know who's arriving wear lol
Cerebro
GM, 25 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 18:27
  • msg #57

Re: OOC

You specifically specified "faster than anyone could perceive" and "the speed of a bullet" didn't you?

That expresses a speed that would cause enough air dispersion, at least at the mass of a human body, that it would cause serious harm. You think even a car passing within a foot of you traveling at 100mph would either have no effect or be imperceptible?

I wouldn't even bring it up had you not decided you needed to flex power instead of simply letting everyone just see you flying above at a reasonable speed.

I had no problem with just arriving at the relevant scene in a single post at a regular speed, but then you express something crazy to overflex power and well... that should have a consequence, right?
Jubilation Lee
player, 20 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 18:40
  • msg #58

Re: OOC

Well there is still gonna be a consequence of what an enemy can do to a flyer with no brakes
Cerebro
GM, 26 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 18:58
  • msg #59

Re: OOC

It isn't a matter of the enemy, it's more about considering the environment around you before over-flexing powers.

The enemy you are approaching is presently victimizing your new friend. But is also VERY personal to Monet.
Monet St. Croix
player, 41 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 19:13
  • msg #60

Re: OOC

You are our eyes and ears in the game.
You set the 'how comic book is this'.

I'm basing what I've posted and explained the context I expected it to be from what you know. If you want to introduce new 'non comic book physics' and 'the situation is nothing like you expected to be, but I haven't told you' then sure. Actions have consequences.

Post as you want it to be. I will have to work out the answer to those things from your reactions, not from you letting us know before hand, but if that's what you want it's OK.
Jubilation Lee
player, 21 posts
Fri 30 Dec 2022
at 20:00
  • msg #61

Re: OOC

Lets not fight lets just friendly snark
Monet St. Croix
player, 42 posts
Sun 1 Jan 2023
at 08:18
  • msg #62

Re: OOC

Happy new year everyone
Monet St. Croix
player, 43 posts
Sun 1 Jan 2023
at 11:18
  • msg #63

Re: OOC

And you are right Jubilation. Go post whatever works for you GM. It's all cool
Jubilation Lee
player, 23 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 22:16
  • msg #64

Re: OOC

I doubt any of us are going to have sex but i think the gane should be upgraded to an Mature rank for language and potential graphic violence.
Monet St. Croix
player, 45 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 22:21
  • msg #65

Re: OOC

Well I'm a fan of adult rating for that reason. It just removes most of the issues and it means we don't have to be careful.

I'm not pushing for it or anything, but if you are going 'mature' you might as well go the whole hog. (Unless someone is under 21 or whatever the limit is in which case let's not)
Jubilation Lee
player, 24 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 22:25
  • msg #66

Re: OOC

I think a lot of our characters are under 18 so no sex. like i think gm said jubilee is 13 which given her experience with the xmen and solo wolverine adventure personally I'd say 16. But it's a school And I imagine most PCs will be under 18 so mature should do fine until we get put into adults like  Rogue or something.
Monet St. Croix
player, 46 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 22:30
  • msg #67

Re: OOC

It's about the players mostly. Adult games have a player age limit not a character age limit. I do take your point about sex, but adult isn't just about sex anyway. Here is a quote.
quote:
This game is rated 'Adult' and may include topics not suitable for minors (explicit violence, gore, and/or sexual themes). Please make sure you have read and understand RPoL's Adult Games Policy.


My problem with mature is that it's easy to accidentally step over the line in describing combat, so I just pretend it's still 'for anyone' usually.

Oh and if your character is under 18 (no matter the rating) it's not just sex. You aren't allowed to describe a crime. Like commiting vandalism in an airport, or jumping over the barriers to get in, or stealing candy. Or anything... So I almost never play a character under 18 (unless it's an actual school game and this isn't)

All that said I have had some pretty steamy kisses in a mature game (as a 16 year old I think)  And they can be as fun (or more) as full adult stuff.

(remember I'm not pushing. Just explaining why I was suggesting it)
This message was last edited by the player at 22:31, Wed 04 Jan 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 25 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 22:33
  • msg #68

Re: OOC

I think those rules are "soft" rules given how many teen vigilantes there are in games.
Monet St. Croix
player, 47 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 23:06
  • msg #69

Re: OOC

Probably

I don't take the risk though. Unless I have to!

My teen super hero (age 14) in a long running school game is a person with no combat powers and a by-the-rules sort of person. Just because of those rules really
This message was lightly edited by the player at 07:07, Thu 05 Jan 2023.
Cerebro
GM, 30 posts
Sun 15 Jan 2023
at 00:49
  • msg #70

Re: OOC

I apologize for those five days of keeping you all waiting.

You all did a good job of responding quickly after my last post-- and I knew what the result would be immediately upon reading it, but the last few weeks I have been extremely preoccupied with other things.

The plan from here out is that, since you all utterly dominated our BBEG so effortlessly, I'll bring in a couple more baddies for you to fight off and allow our BBEG to escape and you can all react to the supposedly dead coming back to life.
Jubilation Lee
player, 28 posts
Sun 15 Jan 2023
at 01:00
Serendipity
player, 20 posts
Sun 15 Jan 2023
at 01:21
  • msg #72

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 71):

Dose your link work for you?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:21, Sun 15 Jan 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 29 posts
Sun 15 Jan 2023
at 01:27
Monet St. Croix
player, 50 posts
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 15:30
  • msg #74

Re: OOC

@Cerebro
Sounds entirely fair. Villains get away all the time. Thanks for telling us (otherwise I would have a sense of failure, whereas now I'm good)
Monet St. Croix
player, 51 posts
Wed 18 Jan 2023
at 06:57
  • msg #75

Re: OOC

Oops I missed it was my turn to post. I will post this evening
Cerebro
GM, 33 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 17:04
  • msg #76

Re: OOC

To clarify things-- the teacher is outside the airport, the rest of you are pretty deep in the airport right now, past the lounge area and into the baggage claim area.

So it would take you quite a while and you'd have to get through a pretty large crowd of people and the TSA agents that are still nearby you in order to get all the way back to Banshee.

Although-- you could call him if you were inclined. It would still take him time to get there.
Jubilation Lee
player, 32 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 17:09
  • msg #77

Re: OOC

Presumably they're trying to push outside. So if need be jubes can grind the railings to get an advantage but also if banshee could stop watching jack septiceye videos maybe he'd go "hmmm the people exiting the airport are running and screaming maybe I should do something about that" in which case instead of jerking it by the car he'd be heading towards the kerfuffle while jubilee heads away and in the middle they'd meet and decide things with body language of who falls back to the car or not.
Jubilation Lee
player, 33 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 17:14
  • msg #78

Re: OOC

Banshee right now:


Cerebro
GM, 34 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 17:17
  • msg #79

Re: OOC

That's a good point.

I only intended to use him as your chauffer and then sideline him let you all be the heroes, but I hadn't considered that with everyone rushing out of the building in a panic he should be heading your way.

But then-- his flying works by super sonic screams that would debilitate everyone, so I guess he would just trying to be pushing through the crowd on foot with everyone pushing him back.
Jubilation Lee
player, 34 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #80

Re: OOC

Alternatively given that we don't live on a 2d plain he could fly over the airport and drop in on the battle of the bulge...ing baggage from above and skip meeting jubilee and she'll just go to the car.
Jubilation Lee
player, 35 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 17:28
  • msg #81

Re: OOC

In the future if you want the chauffeur to be helpless don't send a special forces mutant with years of battle experience as a soldier and as a superhero. Make the chauffeur Gary from accounting who's superpower is being very good with finances or another non combatant.
Cerebro
GM, 35 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 19:10
  • msg #82

Re: OOC

In fairness-- I would think that the way things have been described so far, not more than a couple minutes have actually passed since you all encountered Emplate. Even if he was trying to get to you all from the moment he saw people pouring out of the building, he won't have arrived just yet.

And you have all basically handled the situation. Murmur is out, Emplate is suffocating and so you just have Penance to deal with.
Jubilation Lee
player, 36 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 22:59
  • msg #83

Re: OOC

We can handle this sure but unless this was specifically set up to be a test by Emma. Sean has really dropped the ball as an adult, as a teacher, as a mutant and as a hero.



Cerebro
GM, 36 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 23:28
  • msg #84

Re: OOC

I'm sorry you feel that way. After how off-the-rails the first thread went, I really wanted to present a situation where the teacher's intention was simply "let's have the boy's first impression of the school being greeted and fawned over by a bunch of pretty girls" rather than interjecting himself-- only for it to go horribly wrong when the boy isn't on U.S. soil for all of 10 minutes before being attacked by the games B.B.E.G. and so you all get a good introduction to the game's main villain.

But well-- here's where we hit the big wall between if one person were to write the entire narrative themselves and if you have other players involved.

As a player you realized that you were obviously walking into a combat scenario and also did not trust me to make it both somewhat suspensible and also totally something you could handle. And I get that-- I have seen other games where the GM gets too emotionally involved in the antagonist NPCs and sees the PCs as opponents and so you need to be hyper aware and ultra prepared. So you tried to drag the teacher along.

But if Banshee had been involved? Then what? He'd have handled the entire situation single-handedly and none of you would have gotten to take any actions that could have had an impact on the story. He'd have just downed Emplate with his sonic scream, shook Jono's hand and then the scene would be over-- and would you really have been happier if you were just a bystander in the story?

By Banshee having removed himself from the situation, for reasons that he felt getting welcomed to America by three lovely girls rather than himself, it "just so happened" to put you in a good situation.

Jubilee gets to save the boy who, at current time, is her future canonical boyfriend.

Monet gets to face off with her big brother and see what sort of freak he has turned into.

Cordelia gets to decide whether she is going to commit to being a member of this team or remain on the fence about betraying them all and turning them over the the Hellfire Society to be brainwashed into slaves.

But to allow you to do this, I need to sideline the teacher and let you all take center stage. It seems odd to me that you present me with this pushback that you would rather I resolved everything with the GM controlled NPC and not let you do anything.
Jubilation Lee
player, 37 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 23:35
  • msg #85

Re: OOC

As long as there are narrative consequences for Sean. As a player I don't have problems with it it's a fun tale. But narratively Emma is gonna be pegging Banshee with an ice strap-on for this snafu lol.
Cerebro
GM, 37 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 23:45
  • msg #86

Re: OOC

Well, I could always introduce the idea that Sean is a drunk barely holding it together from the start rather than keeping that for issue #70 and Emma... well... yeah, she's totally psycho at this point. Her last batch of students were murdered by a time traveling madman and its only the other teachers in the school that are stopping her from putting a collar around all of your necks and keeping you on a leash.

And man-- canonically, in the actual series, if you say you don't want to deal with her rules-- you are basically dead to her. She wrote off Maggot and Gaia super quick and the Gen X series basically ended with her tossing everyone out on their asses without hesitation when they said they didn't want to do things her way.

And the rest of the teachers I assigned to your school are basically marginally reformed villains.

It's very much to put you on the foot that you can learn stuff from the teachers, but totally do not depend on or trust them-- you all got each other and that's what's got to matter.
Jubilation Lee
player, 38 posts
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 23:47
  • msg #87

Re: OOC

Well at least we'll have each other.
Monet St. Croix
player, 52 posts
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 09:23
  • msg #88

Re: OOC

It's your vision of the story. That's meant supportively. Every GM should make the story in line with their vision
This message was last edited by the player at 09:23, Sun 22 Jan 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 53 posts
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 19:46
  • msg #89

Re: OOC

I messed up not posting sorry.

I am a little confused as to the current situation.

I think it is as followed

  • Emplate is on the ground, Monet is keeping him there
  • The Mummy is asleep
  • Penance is charging Monet (but Monet is flying using a railing to keep Emplate down), so can Penance leap or will she choose to bash/destroy the metal railing


Let me know if I have it right or wrong, and I'll do a suitable post
Cerebro
GM, 38 posts
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 21:56
  • msg #90

Re: OOC

She can leap really well.

Even if her claws could eventually cut through a steel beam, her plan of attack is to tackle you in order to get you to release the beam. And she isn't going for a slash attack as though she is really trying to hurt you as much as she could be, but she is a bit ball of diamond sharp blades no matter how you cut it.
Monet St. Croix
player, 61 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 10:02
  • msg #91

Re: OOC


quote:
Re: The Mysterious Student from Abroad

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 66):

ooc you appear to have misread my post.


It's possible. I thought the post was this

quote:
Cordelia noted Croix disapproving glance Squeezing into the vehicle with the others, slammed the door closed a door stared out the windows.


It looked very much as though you were grumping IC. I'll edit it a tiny bit. But Monet is actually pleased Cordelia is like that. Sorry... but in the comics she is an utter git. And that interaction with Emma amplified it.

Can I suggest a different toon for you to invest in? Unless you have a particular thing you want to do with Cordelia.
Serendipity
player, 28 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 10:32
  • msg #92

Re: OOC

Interesting.
Monet St. Croix
player, 62 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 10:37
  • msg #93

Re: OOC

quote:
but in the comics she is an utter git.


Well perhaps manipulative, betraying, doublecrossing and evil would be better descriptions. That's the comic of course, you can make her what you want :) She's your toon.
Jubilation Lee
player, 48 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 10:38
  • msg #94

Re: OOC

Like my toon is crushing on Monet.
Monet St. Croix
player, 63 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 10:51
  • msg #95

Re: OOC

@Jubilation
Ah... I noticed. Red face. Looking forwards to seeing how that plays out :)

@Serendipity
What I'm really saying Serendipity is that we'd like to write with you and you enjoy it too.

I thought you wanted the tension and disapproval, so played along with your writing. I'm good with whatever you choose to write and I'll do my very best to go along with it and build on what you do
Jubilation Lee
player, 49 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 10:58
  • msg #96

Re: OOC

I think the situation is

Monet: "These enemies of mine are monsters!" *glares Thinking about the attackers*

Serendipity internally: Huh she's glaring she must be mad *looks away*

Monet: She's looking away she must be mad at me

"Cordelia took note of the disapproving glance of Croix"
Monet St. Croix
player, 64 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 11:02
  • msg #97

Re: OOC

It's all true. Misunderstandings happen all the time. I read it differently of course, but hey that's because text is hard for communication

I'm happy with the post now. The misunderstanding is clearly documented if you see what I mean. Cordelia has something to work with I hope. We can have a nice (well for players if not for characters) chat about it

@Serendipity if you still want it changing let me know, but you'll have to give me an example of what you'd like it to say.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:03, Fri 03 Feb 2023.
Serendipity
player, 29 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 11:48
  • msg #98

Re: OOC

Hum it's helpul to suggest ic posts here.

PvP ic posts detract from PvNPC & villain ones and may have adverse ooc issues.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:26, Fri 03 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 65 posts
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 13:30
  • msg #99

Re: OOC

Oh I just leave the moment we move to PVP. I don't do it at all. Especially in freeform where there is no system or ability to resolve conflicts in any thing other than an adhoc way.

I don't mind tension or anything. But when people attack others then I'm gone.

I'm not really sure what you want to get out of Cordelia. So I just react to the way you post as I would. If you want something else feel free to start some collaboration
Monet St. Croix
player, 66 posts
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 17:51
  • msg #100

Re: OOC

Just a suggestion: should we advertise again for new players. You have three. But a couple more would be great!
Jubilation Lee
player, 53 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 00:56
  • msg #101

Re: OOC

I opened the all pages tag and used find on serendipity abd there's was like eight of fourteen posts hiding behind a pillar I stopped searching so Jubilee also doesn't remember.
Serendipity
player, 32 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:04
  • msg #102

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 101):

If you can't see a gust of wind it doesn't mean it didn't do anything. Did you consider  subsequent posts to hers?
This message was lightly edited by the player at 01:09, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 54 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:07
  • msg #103

Re: OOC

If you can't see it you can't expect people to believe you did anything. That's just how it looks to outsiders.
Serendipity
player, 33 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:12
  • msg #104

Re: OOC

Yet you both accuse Cordelia of doing nothing to help during the fight.
Jubilation Lee
player, 55 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:14
  • msg #105

Re: OOC

Because we didn't see anything happen over our blazing offense.nobidy appreciates the Bard
Serendipity
player, 34 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:17
  • msg #106

Re: OOC

Bard... that's Banshees roll

grin
This message was last edited by the player at 01:17, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 56 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:18
  • msg #107

Re: OOC

He has a role? I couldn't tell.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:19, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 70 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 06:47
  • msg #108

Re: OOC

quote:
If you can't see it you can't expect people to believe you did anything. That's just how it looks to outsiders.

Exactly.

quote:
Yet you both accuse Cordelia of doing nothing to help during the fight.

Incorrect. I don't accuse you at all. But you did nothing that Monet saw. And she has telepathic sense and excellant senses all around

Here is a list of your posts. If you 'magically in such a way that another telepath didn't notice' did stuff as well, then you did it so secretly that we weren't aware of it. Hence the statements in the car

quote:
quote:
With one hand Cordelia covered her mouth as she grasped her stomach with the other as she nearly hurled at the horrendus sight before her. Turning away from such a violent sight, she wondered why she chose to disregard the mass exodus of the norms.


quote:
Jubilation's alert prompted Cordelia to glance in her direction. Things are going from bad to worse she thought as she moved behind a concrete pillar. Peeking out to check her comrades were moving away from the dark Mass.


quote:
Cordelia peeked out from behind the column. Taking in the scene then ducking back.


quote:
Seeing Lee skating away with the body Cordelia peeked around the Concrete Column, she was behind, to see what Saint C was upto. The scene she observed was quite hectic.


quote:
Cordelia rolls her eyes then ducks behind the column. Glancing about she looks aboul for a safe path to get away from these creatures she cant stop before they decide to decide she's a subject they'd like to include in their raid.


quote:
Cordelia didn't need any persuasion, taking her companions exit she headed out of the terminal as quickly as she could.

Serendipity
player, 35 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 08:54
  • msg #109

Re: OOC

True those were Cordellia's posts from.your perspective. However
Serendipity:
If you can't see a gust of wind it doesn't mean it didn't do anything. Did you consider  subsequent posts to hers?

This message was last edited by the player at 08:57, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 71 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 09:50
  • msg #110

Re: OOC

This is the OOC right? So we are talking about why we regard Cordelia as having one nothing meaningful

It's because you posted 'I did nothing meaningful'. If you had posted 'I did something' then we would be reacting as though 'you had done something'. Lots of things are going on in that airport. It's an airport full of thousands of people with unknown badguys around (many!), unknown tech from the TSA and other organisations, unknown capabilities from the kid we are trying to rescue.

Now if you want us to view Cordelia as anything other than what you post... that's unlikely. We react to what you do, and what we can easily deduce from your actions. If you cower and do nothing, then we react to that

It's quite easy to change that view! You can post facial expressions in it. Or inner thoughts that have an impact on your body language. Anything you want. You could also actually tell us IC. It has to be IC not OOC because neither Jubilation or I metagame.

Just remember that if you post "Cordelia does nothing meaningful" then the characters that are in the story with her will correctly and appropriately react to "Cordelia doing nothing meaningful".
Serendipity
player, 36 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 10:33
  • msg #111

Re: OOC

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 110):

Indeed yet anything of the sort (inner concerns etc.) would have been overlooked/ missed or even ignored; as your focus was elsewhere. Neither of you ask Cordelia anything about what she did during the skirmish, rather stating/implying Cordelia wasn't suited to any field work.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:37, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 72 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 10:42
  • msg #112

Re: OOC

Correct.

There were thousands of people around, many of them screaming. It was a highly stressful combat situation. Particularly for Monet as it happened. There was an attempted murder taking place: the bad guys claw actually inside someone! Mysterious other bad guys were teleporting in. Crazyness was happening everywhere. the bad guy turns out to be her brother who is the person that murdered her mother. On the whole I think that ignoring little strange things happening around her (which were so subtle I as the player didn't notice them) is not unreasonable.

I didn't know Emplate had killed her mother until after the scene: If I'd known I would have reacted a little more aggressively :) But there you are!

Basically we reacted to what you posted'. And we reacted IC giving you a chance to do something about it IC. If you want us to react differently then post differently.

If you want us to change our IC view then you need to do something IC to make us IC react differently. We've made it very clear what we think about you IC. Monet's offering to help: she's not being nasty to you (although she's made it clear that if you mess with her mind you will find that a punch to the face can be quite nasty). You now have the RP opportunity of developing your character and the relationship with the other characters. You can't do that in OOC...
This message was last edited by the player at 11:53, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 57 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 11:42
  • msg #113

Re: OOC

Not here to prolong an argument but I think in metaphor and similes and if I don't get them out I'll burst. "Telepathic attacks are a lot like my Tiger repelling necklace. They're super effective. I've lived in the big city without ever leaving my house for more than ten minutes at a time for years and have never been attacked by tiger"
Monet St. Croix
player, 73 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 11:55
  • msg #114

Re: OOC

*laughs* Very funny. yes

Along with a (not the same just related) 'Your Yak bite insurance is valid everywhere except in the Himalayas'
Cerebro
GM, 44 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 20:51
  • msg #115

Re: OOC

Sorry I have been only marginally involved for a few days, you three have been busy...

To clarify a few things and cool OOC tensions.

Cordelia did a little more during that scene than it initially seems like but did all her aggressive actions through private messages to me. She is the one who dropped Warp after Jubilee hit him with fireworks and scanned plenty of useful info from his brain. But your characters don't know about that.

She tried to do the same to Penance, but Penance's whole thing is that her body and mind cannot be penetrated-- and she's also mute and deaf. Actually, the latter two are probably more important and her immunity to telepathy is probably more about making telepathy an easy work around for her deafness and muteness.

I repeatedly hinted that the best use of her powers might be to manipulate the civilians into getting clear of the action, but well, she didn't bite...

I do wonder if maybe, given we have dropped the whole "change characters between scenes" aspect if it might not be easier to change Serendipity's name to just Cordelia Frost. It might make things less confusing.

Monet shouldn't know that Marius killed her mother yet. As far as she should know right now, her mother died in a car accident roughly around the time when Marius's powers began to manifest-- but he has yet to confess to her. As far as she knows right now, his powers coming out and increasing cruelty and insanity could be a result of their mother's death.

Then again, he none-too-subtly hinted that he might decide to target their little sisters if she insists on getting in his way of building his army of thralls.

I am going to try to get us caught up now and see if I can find our game advertisement updated.

As for where things go next....

  1. Cordelia knows who Emplate's next target is, but not where he is.
  2. I could push ahead with Blink and Angelo's storylines that will require you to go out to California.
  3. We could do the whole "go to New York City to pick up Artie and Leech" story, but well... you all decided you hate the teachers and so apparently aren't going to go to Frost International HQ on Emma's request.
  4. It seems too early to have Penance brought to the school since you just had an encounter with her so recently.

Jubilation Lee
player, 60 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 21:04
  • msg #116

Re: OOC

We'll go with a teacher who's competent or actively lets us know they're not getting involved even if the end of the world starts. We were under the false pretenses a teacher's job is to protect and guide their students not stand around and maybe watch them die. either make the next one proactive or upfront they won't be helping out. it's a classic problem that most comics handle by writing characters out temporarily. I.e. in DC comics if a Kryptonian could handle the threat of the week in five seconds they're either dead, off world, or facing another threat. Banshee was not knocked out five seconds into the situation. He did not help get civilians out. He did absolutely nothing. No matter how you cut it he fucked up. Like he fucked up so bad this is the part where people would start theorizing he was sabotaging them because he's actually an agent for the big bad. And then others would defend him by saying he fucked up so bad it's too obvious to be a sabotage that's how bad it was. Ooc you have good reasons to let the players shine. IC you didn't give us anything that's something you gotta work on.
Cerebro
GM, 45 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 21:22
  • msg #117

Re: OOC

By the time Banshee got there, you all had the baddie pinned down and dead to rights. Even once he summoned reinforcements, you three dropped one within 30 seconds and the other decided to try to attack the invulnerable person.

His scream powers are a big area effect-- had he used them, it would have screwed up what the three of you were doing and disabled multiple civilians. And that's no way to get civilians out of the way.

So he decided to stand-by, observe and judge how the lot of you did on your own, through doing so he was then able to be someone who was not a participant in the battle that could then talk to the authorities and convince them not to try to arrest you all.

Please stop taking things as a personal attack that I am not having the GM NPCs solve all presented problems for you.

Try to suspend your disbelief a little here and work with me.

You have two headmasters.

One of them saw her entire previous class murdered by a villain who came out of nowhere and wants complete control over you so that the nightmares she suffers every night about that never has to occur again. In order to do that, she is intentionally putting tracking devices on you so that if you get kidnapped or captured, she can use GPS to immediately know your location. She also wants complete financial control over you so she can be aware of where you are and what you are doing. The trade-off is that her expectations for your moral behavior is very low-- she tried to sleep with her teacher when she was in high school, she worked as a stripper and ripped financially beneficial information from people's minds as a teenager, she tried to raise child soldiers to benefit the Hellfire Club in her 20s-- and now, living in regret, she doesn't want you to make those same screwed up choices and will spare you from them if she can.

The other is going to let you all have a very wide leash because he came up the hard way, he learned his powers without any mentorship, and it worked for him. He wants to see what the hell you can do if he just lets you free to do your own things, make your own mistakes and will only step in if you are about to be permanently maimed or die. Otherwise, his philosophy is that you should be given the freedom to make your own mistakes-- because that's how you learn in his experience.

They are meant to be highly flawed. And I am not perfect myself so I cannot perfectly account for everything as a writer who was writing all the characters myself would be able to.

If you want to take every little thing personally, decide that you can just drive off in a random direction just to rebel and throw a tantrum that the adults in a superhero story where the first conceit is that people in their early to mid teens get to be the heroes and beat up bad guys are not solving all the problems for you.... fine.

But that means I no longer have a story for you.
Jubilation Lee
player, 61 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 21:41
  • msg #118

Re: OOC

We're going back to school not driving off randomly. Might grab some Massachusetts area drive thru but we're not giving up on the school. Banshee came to the airport to pick up a student. And then didn't think to figure out a way to find him and then sent teens to go do their own thing. The Xmen have way more structure and Xavier wouldn't have allowed this cock up. I'm not going to go full Hogwarts protagonist and say. "Well we had to literally fix every single thing that went wrong in Hogwarts for seven years... Man are teachers are so awesome and admirable. Banshee fucked up Before during and after (so far) the incident. IC he fucked up. He was too lax a hard ass teacher might chafe but they have things organized and let you as the DM push characters into the direction you need them to go. Assume Jubilee was pissed off for some other reason with a hard ass teacher in the scene. They'd demand jubilee stop. And she'd have to. Then they'd talk and everyone goes back to school together including the teacher. You can't have a set narrative you want to do and teachers that let us go full sandbox mode. You gotta establish boundaries. We are students teachers are supposed to be doing things to earn respect and we should be giving them respect. If I was Emma I'd chew out Sean and then assign the girls someone who is going to keep them in line. And this might even be Emma's plan all along so as long as whoever chaperones them next has any discipline they'll be grateful. Right now this is an opportunity for Emma to justify her hard ass side because as you said earlier she trained Hellfire club students like a drill sergeant. This performance could justify "X-Men ways are soft and failed Hellfire ways are the right way" and give her a chance at some more character development.
Monet St. Croix
player, 76 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 21:59
  • msg #119

Re: OOC

Well there are a few topic under discussion. Let's split them up. I'll start with the observation Jubilation and I are clearly from the same school of RPing. We react to what happens IC. And only that. Only what we know...

Banshee
IC Monet has already said she will wait to see his side of the story. The driving off is Jubilation by the way. I am just following along :) I was a little surprised but right now Monet is dazed. For obvious reasons.

Summary: Monet is not down on Banshee at the moment. The argument you put forwards is sensible enough (for IC and for metagaming reasons) for there to be no angst there.

Emma.
Monet is only judging her on her interactions with Cordelia. IC things which Monet saw. Oh and the fact that she put malware/spyware illegally on her phone. And probably some spy cameras and things (which have now been broken and stomped on). If she does stuff that is nicer, and more trustworthy, then Monet is quite likely to trust her more. She could of course explain (IC) why the spyware. Without that IC interaction I have to ignore that reasoning because Monet doesn't know it.

Summary: Why not have Emma explain why she put the spyware in place? That could be a very nice scene. Ask her to stop breaking the cameras... It will build the world, and might well have the result of Monet respecting Emma more. (or not) and either are good RP grist

Cordelia
Cordelia is doing the following
  • Playing an intrinsically untrustworthy character. One of the slimiest in the whole Marvel repository.
  • Posting 'I did nothing'
  • In OOC is talking about PVP.

So we will react to her as she posts and acts. I mean what else can we do? Monet is not being nasty to her as far as I can see. She's trying hard to help Cordelia: offering to speak to her sister on her behalf because she has seen that there is a toxic relationship there.

We've explained all she has to do. Basically do something IC. OOC stuff will have zero impact on what we post IC... because IC we saw her do nothing.

Summary
Up to Cordelia. Me... I'd change toons if I was her. If not... just has to talk to us IC. And perhaps try and build trust IC. That latter's a very very difficult goal though. I think that's unlikely to succeed... But the reason you play a toon like that is to have people mistrust you, so I suppose that's fair enough.

Emplate
My apologies for making the error about 'killing mother'. It only occured in OOC anyway: I didn't know until recently (I was doing some more background reading).

I will think about Monet's views on her brother a lot (actually she's IC thinking about it right now)

What next
I am totally neutral on this. All sound good. Whichever you are happiest with. I did actually enjoy the airport scene quite a lot. I'm surprise the Cordelia is OOC upset for us reacting to her posts in which she did nothing, but hopefully she will fix that.

I would like a scene with Emma though. (She'd have to call Monet, but that's easy: she's the headmistress) But that can be in flexitime: it doesn't have to delay other people.
Serendipity
player, 37 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:05
  • msg #120

Re: OOC

There's GM related IC events at the airport that aren't resolved.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:06, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 77 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:09
  • msg #121

Re: OOC

Ah didn't know.

Well IC we are all driving away. I suspect we could have a phone call :) Saying 'get back here'.
Monet St. Croix
player, 78 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:12
  • msg #122

Re: OOC

quote:
After explaining, he wrapped his jacket around himself and zipped it up to hide his shame. After that Monet flew off to meet with the other girls, abandoning the new boy to be taken care of by Banshee.


Absolutely not: He's in the car with us. Otherwise we have a 'WTF happened'.

Monet is talking to him at the moment for example. And there is zero percent chance she would leave him
This message was last edited by the player at 22:13, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 62 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:13
  • msg #123

Re: OOC

All four people are in the car. We left banshee with the tsa.
Cerebro
GM, 47 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:17
  • msg #124

Re: OOC

I don't know WTF happened.

First you were talking with the boy in the baggage claim area, next minute you were in the parking lot with Jubilation and Cordelia.

No one mentioned Jono after Monet's last post, did they?
Jubilation Lee
player, 63 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:20
  • msg #125

Re: OOC

"She gestured to the car for Jono to get in. "I'm going to fly cover over head" she said to the others. "I don't want any more surprises..." She had bad memories of car rides and her brother. She didn't want to be reliving that again and again for the hour's journey back"

Monet's post
Monet St. Croix
player, 79 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:23
  • msg #126

Re: OOC

I did try to make it clear. I am sorry if it got messed up

I'd just live with it as it is unless you have a really strong reason for not

Why not just have a phone call tell us all to get back to the airport if you have some reason for something happening in the airport
Cerebro
GM, 48 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:24
  • msg #127

Re: OOC

Okay then-- I changed it up.

I feel like you all jumped way ahead of me the last 3 days.

Let me see if I can recruit anyone to play Jono.

Nothing else is going to happen at the airport.

The plot threads from here are either to get to Emplate's next target before he does or get involved with the other students' plots.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:25, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 80 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:26
  • msg #128

Re: OOC

Any chance of a flexitime thread with Emma?
Jubilation Lee
player, 64 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:27
  • msg #129

Re: OOC

I feel each of us needs a debriefing with her.
Cerebro
GM, 49 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:48
  • msg #130

Re: OOC

If that's what you want, we can do it.

But I am just skeptical any good can come out of it with the current prevailing attitude.
Jubilation Lee
player, 65 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:50
  • msg #131

Re: OOC

Current prevailing attitudes are

Monet: I'll find out more about what's going on with Banshee. Emma is a sussy baka.

Jubilee: Banshee fucked up. Emma's an ex villain but she was a competent villain so we can talk.

Serendipity: *shrug* I dunno.
Monet St. Croix
player, 81 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 22:56
  • msg #132

Re: OOC

I hope my last long post explained why Monet feels that way about Emma. And what would change that.

Summary
  • I'm not down on Banshee
  • I am down on Emma because of how she treats Cordelia and the illegal spyware

Cordelia is Emma's family... and we have all seen that kind of toxic irrationality (plus Cordelia really deserves it anyway - see comics). The spyware she can easily explain. If she does that changes a lot.

I'm here to work with you, not against you. I can only post based on what we see IC, (or we agree in OOC if it's important to the GM). In the comics Emma and Monet have a mildly adversarial relationship, so I was assuming you wanted that... especially with that scene with Cordelia. If you don't just let me know!

Jubilation summarised it quite well.
Jubilation Lee
player, 66 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 23:06
  • msg #133

Re: OOC

I feel that a meeting between Banshee Emma Jubilee Monet and Serendipity could lead to open honest dialogue healing rifts between people and making everything back to a baseline. But that wouldn't be very good for drama purposes so do you want a happy team or narrative conflict. Could be a win either way
Monet St. Croix
player, 82 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 23:09
  • msg #134

Re: OOC

Just putting a fly in that ointment... I don't see Monet ever trusting Cordelia.

The others sure. But you play one of the most treacherous characters in the Marvel catalogue because you want that kind of drama, so that's fair enough I suppose.
Jubilation Lee
player, 67 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 23:17
  • msg #135

Re: OOC

Well on that aspect you could fault having the character available to play in the first place lol. Besides I'm more forgiving of serendipity could be the player wants to do the same thing as me. Reimagine the character. After all in the comics Jubilee and Monet probably wouldn't be holding hands lol.
Monet St. Croix
player, 83 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 23:20
  • msg #136

Re: OOC

It's all possible.

I must admit I was very badly affected by the PVP mention. I can get over that.

OK fair enough... I'll just do it based of IC stuff. At the moment that's a very negative impression, but a little RP could get over that.
Jubilation Lee
player, 68 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 23:28
  • msg #137

Re: OOC

Her response to Jubilee that Monet was a showoff makes sense IC because a telepath works in more subtle ways. Jubes is the Demoman, Monet is the scout, and Serendipity is the Spy. we seem a bit uncouth for her style. My biggest problem is that functionally Jubilee and Monet both showed off. And jubilee was riding the adrenaline rush. It could be serendipity was calling the idea of flying over a car showing off. But jubilee is focused on the fight.
Cerebro
GM, 51 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:24
  • msg #138

Re: OOC

I am thinking I either set my scenes way, way too wide and everyone got lost or I am just an idiot.

So we have 5 characters in the scene.

Monet, Jubilee, Cordelia, Jono and Sean. We'll ignore the random TSA agents.

I want to clarify not only where your character is, but where you thought the other 4 characters were in relation to you.

Because I am thinking we might need to do a better job of clarifying this in the future.
Jubilation Lee
player, 71 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:29
  • msg #139

Re: OOC

Jubilee I. Ride to air port. Jubilee  heading to unboarding area fight jubilee taking jono back to car jubilee stops when jono wakes up and goes back to help Monet. Fight ends Jubilee goes to car and calls Uber. Jubilee gets in Uber. Cordelia follows Monet follows escorting Jono. We all drive off.
Monet St. Croix
player, 87 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:37
  • msg #140

Re: OOC

I think I am totally in agreement with Jubilation


--

This is the classical problem with 'delta's. Each of our posts 'changes the world a little'. But it references the 'agreed current world' without (often) making it explicit. Without reading all the posts, it's hard to know what the current state is.

It wouldn't hurt for us everynow and then to summarise the way the world is!
Jubilation Lee
player, 72 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:42
  • msg #141

Re: OOC

Current world state: Banshee just came off an eighteen hour shift leaving him mentally exhausted because he's EX military and is used to getting a full night's sleep and Monet and Jubilee wildly underestimated just how skilled they are as combatants. Because jubilee is used to playing second fiddle to the badass wolverine and legendary X-Men so she's never had a chance to truly gauge herself. Which is why to her Banshee was supposed to be protecting them. Because she thinks she's weaker than she actually is.
Monet St. Croix
player, 88 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #142

Re: OOC

Ah that's mean. Funny. But mean

I'd go with current State
  • Banshee is back cleaning up the politics of the mess.
  • Jono, Jubilation and Monet are chatting in the back of the car
  • Cordelia is there too, but not chatting


The car is an Uber. The taxi driver is probably bricking himself given the conversation in the back of the car...

I think we are maybe 5 minutes into the hour long journey. Not too far from the airport

Does that work?
Jubilation Lee
player, 73 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:53
  • msg #143

Re: OOC

At least until we time skip to the end.... Something suspicious about us still being a good chunk of time in a car far from backup. This seems like we're going to have another event happen.
Monet St. Croix
player, 89 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 21:55
  • msg #144

Re: OOC

Well that's why I wanted to be flying overhead.

But then I wouldn't be holding Jubilation's hand. So it all balances out :)
Serendipity
player, 40 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 22:31
  • msg #145

Re: OOC

Thank you for posting my actions.
Cerebro
GM, 52 posts
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 00:21
  • msg #146

Re: OOC

I could write something wrong criticizing what I felt are the prevailing problems here. But that's just going to make everyone feel called out.

I have a list of requests here that  think would help fix some of our current issues...

  1. If I tell you that you can't do something and give you a reason, however flimsy, do not force forward "I'm going to do it anyway." Whether this be 'please tone down the power level you are using because we need your allies and enemies to still feel relevant to the story and not just completely steamrolled/sidelined and the last thing we want is a power escalation in a free-form game' to 'your character is entirely financially dependent and shouldn't be dumb enough to puree on the hand that feeds you over a petty personal dispute even if you are completely in the right.'
  2. Stop trying to break up the party because you feel personally out-of-character slighted. We have only a small number of players here, even if your characters don't get along, at least as players try to find some excuse, no matter what a stretch, even if you are planning a long-term betrayal, pretend to cooperate. The vibe you should be having is sort of the "feuding but have each other's backs" like the Breakfast Club, but instead you are acting like mortal enemies.
  3. Drop any genre-savvy shitty attitudes. Yes, if we are having a scene obviously bad guys are going to show up. You are not clever for realizing this. We don't do story threads about the 90% of the characters lives where no villains show up.
  4. Stop trying to go over the heads of, backstab, abandon or personally destroy the authority figures you have been given and expecting good things to happen as a result of having some imagined moral high ground. I mean-- really-- imagine trying to do a Batman game where someone where someone actually put real consideration about Batman having a barely trained 14-year old boy in brightly colored spandex helping him fight terrorists and serial killers. It just undermines any sort of story continuing.
  5. Stop trying to do complex actions that would take 10 minutes to actually accomplish in a single post.
  6. If a thread is taking place over a wide area, you don't need to be everywhere at once responding to every possible person in that thread. If two characters are clearly at separate ends of a huge building or neighborhood, you can either continue conversing with the person near you or go chasing after the person who ran away-- but not both.


All of you have been guilty of at least two of those things and it has been really detrimental. I don't want any debate about who is the most wrong or take any sides between any two people feeling upset.

I think we have all messed up. Especially me as I clearly did not set a proper and realistic understanding of expectations, parameters or limitations.
Jubilation Lee
player, 74 posts
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 02:11
  • msg #147

Re: OOC

1. Why do they have to be flimsy? Do you need a Co-Gm or something to write arguments because we joined this game to be creative we can write arguments for why things that seem like mistakes actually have in character reasons. Like I said Banshee seems incompetent here the ooc reason is you wanted to give us room to stretch our legs but you didn't have an IC reason. I mentioned here that maybe he's sleep deprived which would tie in with why he didn't think how to get in contact with Jono. It doesn't have to be a mistake if you can justify it creatively. You have the power and if your busy with a lot of work and stuff just hit us up when you catch us in character mentioning a problem. And we can come up with in character excuses for why it played out the way it did.

2. You told us to break up the party to go explore shops and such on our own. But we are working as a team even with the big argument with Cordelia we all stayed together with Jono too. We ditched banshee sure but since he wasn't participating he's not part of the team. We did keep the team together even if we're sniping at each other.

3. Specifically picking up a mutant is obviously going to cause trouble. Having us do normal stuff like going out to the mall we can drop the gebre savvy the way the airport was framed was practically an mission. That just oozed trouble. We can be less genre savvy in situations that your guard would naturally be down. Plus with the blossoming Jubilee Monet friendship they could be distracted from potential threats. As writers It's hard to separate us as players from the characters. Like Monet's player really doesn't like Cordelia for her behavior in comics that Monet's character probably doesn't know about or hadn't seen yet. She's trying to keep the animosity ooc but it's hard to separate. and ooc it's a bit unfair to entirely blame the player for choosing Cordelia. I tried to play an oc and then kitty pryde but jubilee was the only fitting slot available for me. You gave us our options and that's not a dig that's just a fact so when we choose from those options we shouldn't be judged for that. Serendipity might have chosen purple girl or someone if she had free range. So yeah we don't need to make player assumptions because they didn't want to play Caliban or something.

4. I absolutely do not expect good things to happen by going over banshee's head. I'm going to do it because it fits narratively and it blowing up in jubilees face also fits narratively. Actions have consequences and besides the bit of Genre savvy which is hard to work through. I happily accept the negative narrative consequences. Teenagers rarely get things to work out and unlike an actual muggle school they can't escalate the issue past Emma. (Not that they would at s certain point it's too much effort) Consequences and drama are why people read the comics. Especially 90s era comics. So ooc I look forward to the consequences. Especially given we are stuck here. If we ran away we'd be captured and killed by sentinels or something. Emma kinda has us overall barrel and she knows it. I do imagine as a former villain and banshee as a hero. she'd enjoy giving him as much of a tongue lashing as she gives the girls. But ultimately she's the boss. And in our meeting you can dissect everything we did wrong and play us like we played Banshee. Like "you said Banshee fucked up well here's how you fucked up." Combine that with giving adequate justification for banshee's lack of action and you got jubilee made an emotionally charged decision and it backfired for her. She usually gets in trouble for that sorta thing.


5. It will slow down the posting rate because we are a bit more active than you but we can do the round robin turn based style if you want. That is our bad for condensing things because we don't know your posting availability so we want to get as much story as we can. That's on us. I'm sorry.

6. Jono wanted to be put down so Jubilee rushed back into the fray. Hadhe stayed unconscious she'd have given him to Banshee which would then have negated any negative comments about him. Or she would have taken him to the car to keep him safe. Jono being seemingly fine didn't really seem to warrant sticking around to chat with while the threat was still around. In unrelated scenes it's natural to want to gravitate towards where the action is. So it's good to make the players feel engaged wherever they are at the moment.
Serendipity
player, 42 posts
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 02:49
  • msg #148

Re: OOC

In reply to Cerebro (msg # 146):

Will try
This message was last edited by the player at 03:23, Wed 08 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 90 posts
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 06:10
  • msg #149

Re: OOC

I'm enjoying the game. Hopefully I am not contributing to negativity.

I suggest we now leave this topic. Looking at items point by point has never worked for me. I'd suggest deleting that post Jubilation and replacing it with 'I'll try'. I do mostly agree with you (except the round robin suggestion: not going there), but it doesn't matter: clearly the GM is unhappy. Let's all work together to fix that unhappiness!

A happy GM makes for a happy game

I'll try too
This message was last edited by the player at 13:49, Wed 08 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 75 posts
Thu 9 Feb 2023
at 23:28
  • msg #150

Re: OOC

I'm impressed Cordelia climbed into a moving vehicle. Lol
Serendipity
player, 44 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 00:07
  • msg #151

Re: OOC

So how strong is Lee? Can she pick up a Car and toss it around like normal folk do with a tennis ball?
Cerebro
GM, 53 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 00:22
  • msg #152

Re: OOC

I am willing to adapt to anything as long as all three of you are more or less content.

But my concern is that certain people are not content.

First issue that we run into is people "moving the scene along" and assuming characters to be where the people supposedly controlling those characters didn't expect those characters to be. That's almost always going to feel shitty.

Second, whether it be Jubilation ditching the teacher despite not being able to pay for a 90-mile taxi or Cordellia letting Emplate's next target get turned into a thrall without a fight because she is pissed off that Monet and Jubilation don't appreciate her contribution... would you all please stop attacking your own side without any meaningful motive to do so?

The other thing that does really bother me is that if we have a pair of characters exchanging dialogue that would take place over less than a minute and meanwhile someone decides to take on a complex string of actions that would have required several minutes of complex action and at some point, upon seeing what they are doing, another person probably would have interrupted this-- that you can "get away with it" because you squeezed a complex set of actions into one post.

I was very, very much guilty of that long ago. At times I might still be. But I am working on it. But it feels weird, it flows weird... and it doesn't feel good to those who are just trying to chat.

Also-- I think the "don't exaggeratedly take in-character offense" and "don't overplay your powers" are also important. Like a general-- please try to respect that there are other people playing kind of thing, right?

And I admit weakness as a GM. I have a certain number of storylines in mind for you all to tackle and there is a fair amount of freedom in how you tackle those missions, but I am not really prepared for what to do if you drive so off the map that you demand I present consequences that I wasn't prepared to present.

Also-- I have a fun story ready for Angelo where he can approach Miguela in a way different from how things went down in the comics and a fun story where Clarice can kidnap a pop star and talk with her mom and I have an interesting idea about how to reinterpret Gaia to be less of a dead-end character...

But first, since no one wanted to play those characters,-- I have this thing with Vincente set up. Here we have a character who was part of the team in the Age of Apocalypse universe but in the main universe he was the only member of Emplate's minions to appear in both attacks on Generation X (outside DOA) and suggested he willingly joined for a power boost.

So, as I see it, he could go either way-- friend or foe-- your decisions will affect how things turn out as I am neutral either way.
Serendipity
player, 45 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 00:30
  • msg #153

Re: OOC

Cordelia posted joining the others in the same vehicle.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:49, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 91 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 06:52
  • msg #154

Re: OOC

Just FYI if we are in a taxi journey of an hour, I'm personally fine with some other player doing lots of stuff while we chat. I don't want to be a damper on their thing while we just do social interaction! And I wouldn't want to speed that up. Social RP is great way of character development, and one of the nicest things about playing on RPOL!

If you want advice... have the taxi break down five minutes from the air port. Or blow a flat. It doesn't need to be a mutant, just an unfortunate coincidence.

Then we'll go back to the airport... Back on the rails again :)
Jubilation Lee
player, 76 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 13:07
  • msg #155

Re: OOC

Emma could send the car back to the airport too or Sean.
Monet St. Croix
player, 92 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 13:13
  • msg #156

Re: OOC

A 'get the hell back here' or a 'please do you mind' depending on what mood they are in :)
Jubilation Lee
player, 77 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 13:16
  • msg #157

Re: OOC

Or thry just call up the company/driver directly and sends us back. The cab pulls up to where they're waiting at the car.
Monet St. Croix
player, 93 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 19:32
  • msg #158

Re: OOC

I am a bit puzzled. Every one had posted we are in a taxi even the Gm who posted we had been many minutes on the drive

Cordelia had interacted with us in the taxi after its been going for some minutes

It's now (like it or not: the Gm doesn't like it but had posted that we are) firmly established we are in a taxi driving away.

Coredelia just got into a (different?) stationary car at the airport. Has she jumped out of ours? Teleported? or is it just a typo?

I don't know Cordelia powers by the way. I've just read a handful of comics in which she seems to have no powers so she could easily have teleportation or bilocation (just saying I am not winding anyone up... Just confused)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:46, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
Serendipity
player, 46 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 21:19
  • msg #159

Re: OOC

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 158):

That's the same one you are in. Before you posted leaving the Airport. There are other things to consider which are thread driven.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:34, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 94 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 21:24
  • msg #160

Re: OOC

I am totally lost in the time line then...

Earlier posts (including yours) have us many minutes into the journey. Is it a flashback? Is it important?

I'm happy to just write it off as a 'I totally don't understand what is going on, nothing computes, but who cares' because if it's not important then ... it's not important.
Cerebro
GM, 54 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 23:08
  • msg #161

Re: OOC

I might have an opportunity to hand Chamber off to a new player.

Massachusetts is a pretty big state, I think Snow Valley (it is a totally fictional location) is supposed to be somewhere near The Hamptons which is 100 miles from Boston Airport, but almost certainly along empty highway.

Going to the airport was far from home. And I kind of expected tension between all three girls which is why my initial post asserted that the journey to the airport was one of tense silence.

I mean-- we got an Asian girl who grew up in Beverly Hills and was in an "elite" elementary school, but was already a bit of a trouble-making mallrat rebel before having her entire future yanked from under her because she found out she was a mutant days or weeks before her parents died under super sus circumstances.

And we have a rich white girl from the east coast who was the youngest and basically abandoned member of her super elite family that put all the weight of the world on the older sisters while treated the youngest as not even a back-up member-- giving her wealth and freedom, but no emotional support or personal attention at all until she acted as bad as she could.

And then we have a girl from Northern Africa who was basically raised as royalty and has seeming almost unlimited power, wealth and privilege-- with the main cost being that she was forced to grow up too fast. Also-- the brother she once admired  is our main baddy.

I mean-- I guess all three were/are super rich. Jono is also a child of wealth and privilege.

No one really seems interested in playing the economically disadvantaged characters so far.
Serendipity
player, 47 posts
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 23:10
  • msg #162

Re: OOC

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 158):

Not if it included Jono.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:01, Sat 11 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 95 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 07:15
  • msg #163

Re: OOC

Character Choice
Ah I only play one character in a game. It's an immersion thing. If I am playing two (unless I am the GM with a different mind set) then I am really playing neither. That's just me of course! Other people love it.

I am interested in Monet because I have played her before, she has some very interesting views on life. There are a couple of absolutely fantastic scenes in the comic with her biting wit which I loved. She's a black female muslim mutant: four seperate types of interesting things. I'm enjoying the social RP of her as well

In the past I have had serious pleasure playing a 'chav' out of a council estate or 'Trailer Trash'. Rich or poor characters: both good. Very enjoyable in different ways.

Timeline
Well let me know if it matters. I will just ignore the posts and any conflicts they cause and assume they are PMs about things that happened in the past until I hear otherwise.

New Player
Sounds great! Looking forwards to playing with them
Monet St. Croix
player, 96 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 09:06
  • msg #164

Re: OOC

Now I am totally lost

Jono is in the taxi with us. He can't be simultaneously getting into a car with Cordelia.

What's going on?

If this is a flash back can it be clearly labeled as a flashback. And you might as well do it in PMs because there is no substance in any of the posts to the rest of us. Just confusion
Jubilation Lee
player, 79 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 13:48
  • msg #165

Re: OOC

Cordelia wants to play it her way let's adapt. Hey Cerebro we got a new potential plot thread. Either someone fucked with time or our minds to make us think we drove off.
Monet St. Croix
player, 97 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 14:18
  • msg #166

Re: OOC

And the GMs mind


quote:
Jono had been silent for several minutes of the drive. He was a bit lost in this entire conversation and, as he had become 'used' to communicating telepathically, it hadn't exactly become second nature.

This message was last edited by the player at 14:23, Sat 11 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 80 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 14:21
  • msg #167

Re: OOC

Plus side now Emma has no reason to chew us out lol.
Monet St. Croix
player, 98 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 14:25
  • msg #168

Re: OOC

Ah it's fun to tease!

Joking aside it would be nice for someone to explain what is happening
Jubilation Lee
player, 81 posts
Sat 11 Feb 2023
at 14:26
  • msg #169

Re: OOC

We got time rewinded or someone made us imagine driving off but we never actually did.
Cerebro
GM, 55 posts
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 16:47
  • msg #170

Re: OOC

I have added a player for Jono.

The next thing to handle is where we are going next. Tell me where you all want to go and what you want to do and I will set it up.
Jubilation Lee
player, 82 posts
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 16:50
  • msg #171

Re: OOC

Well now that we're all back at the airport banshee can take us back to your main plot because time got rewinded.
Monet St. Croix
player, 99 posts
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 18:51
  • msg #172

Re: OOC

What Jubilation said... Sounds good to me
Cerebro
GM, 56 posts
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 22:51
  • msg #173

Re: OOC

It was never my intention to rewind anything.

Is there any possible way that everyone who is playing could get on the most positive possible page with working with every other player to get to the next goal?
Jubilation Lee
player, 83 posts
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 22:57
  • msg #174

Re: OOC

Please review messages 67 , 68, 81, 91 and 92 in the student abroad thread and tell me what is going on chronologically. if there is no rational or logical explanation I propose someone or something rewound time making 91 and 92 work.
Serendipity
player, 49 posts
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 23:57
  • msg #175

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 174):

There was no backtracking Cordelia posted her actions in the uber they are in. Which included the Driver where they were going
This message was last edited by the player at 01:56, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 84 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 00:01
  • msg #176

Re: OOC

91 and 92 involved her getting in the Uber except the evidence shows she was already in it. So unless you're playing two separate characters how did you get in a vehicle, have it drive towards the school, have it driving in the road, then get in the vehicle? You got into the vehicle twice. That's only possible with time hijinks.
Serendipity
player, 50 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 02:11
  • msg #177

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 176):

She did get into an uber, once at the airport approx the same time the other passengers did. Cordelia then Directed the driver where take them.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:18, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 85 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 02:20
  • msg #178

Re: OOC

You

Got

Into

The

Uber

Twice.

Your "I get into the uber" at post 91 and 92 happens afte we've already established you got into it when we did and jono was already riding with us.so unless jubilee and Monet are riding with mystique and mystiques twin sister mystique two electric bluegaloo you have been with us for a couple dozen posts. So getting in the Uber in post 91 & 92 is redundant, we got into a car with a shapeshifter back i! The 67 post area, or someone rewound everything that happened between post 91 and 92 back to 67 and 68 those are the only options
Serendipity
player, 51 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 02:54
  • msg #179

Re: OOC

Cordelia posted getting into the uber once; you've missed the point.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:55, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 86 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 03:00
  • msg #180

Re: OOC

We have been driving for a while talking. Strike through be damned the gm posted we were driving. We posted sitting in the car talking as the car drove. And jono has been talking to people in the car. Three out of the four people in this game has a consensus Jubilee, Monet, and Jono are in an Uber minutes away from the airport by now. Three of four aka the majority. So you did NOT just get in the Uber with Jono you got in Banshees car with Banshee if you got in anywhere. And god knows who the FUCK we've been talking to as we drive. You haven't paid an iota of attention to what has been going on. So unless we rectify this situation by saying there's a time rewind or shapeshifters YOU DUN GOOFED. Because your getting into a vehicle with a person neither of which is at the airport. Your getting in a ghost Uber with a ghost Jono OOOOOH SPOOOOOKY!
This message was last edited by the player at 03:03, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 100 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 03:40
  • msg #181

Re: OOC

I think I posted that I was totally confused with how Cordelia could post getting into the taxi after she had been chatting in the taxi.
  • Was it a different taxi?
  • Was it teleportation?
  • Was it bilocation?
  • Was it a flashback?

If it was the 'getting into the taxi' that we were in, then it's a flashback. Because the GM had posted we were several minutes into the drive and you chatted with us / touched Jubilations hand after that post.

I can see that Jubilation too was deeply confused too

It's not the end of the world, it's just a 'posted chatting in the taxi', 'posted getting into the taxi'... huh? sort of thing. Just make it a flashback and there are absolutely no confusions/problems. Flashbacks are great. Happen in the comics all the time
Jubilation Lee
player, 87 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 05:17
  • msg #182

Re: OOC

Your right it's probably just easier to ignore inconsistencies and keep doing the scene our way and if Cordelia addresses someone phrasing it like she just got into the car we ignore it and act like she said it ten minutes into the car trip it's still the same question that needs to be answered. I can save my outrage till something like we irrevocably kill some villain who's dead forever were back at the car thinking about the repercussions of taking a life and then Cordelia suddenly deflects the killing blow even though the character has been dead for twenty minutes. When it heavily affects the plot then I can get heated.
Serendipity
player, 52 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 06:01
  • msg #183

Re: OOC

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 181):

2 out of 5 is not a consensus.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:11, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 101 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 08:13
  • msg #184

Re: OOC

The sky is blue is a true statement and irrelevant. 2 out of 5 is not a consensus is also a true statement but I don't understand the relevance.

There were three players and a gm at the point of confusion. Two of the players and the Gm had posted that monet, Jono and jubilation were in a taxi. The Gm (not the players) wrote we were minutes into the drive

You interacted with us and both players thought you were in the car and said words to you which you IC reacted to. For example you reached out and touched jubilation

Then you wrote that back at the airport you got into the car

Hence our confusion. Which we have expressed

I feel you think we are fighting you or opposing you. I certainly am not. I am trying to work out how to write my next post. I am confused about the state of the world and asking for clarity

I've never had this difficulty in asking for clarity before. Quite often I go 'oops my bad I will edit'. In this case that's hard because three of us (gm jubilation and myself) would have to edit multiple posts to be in line with a post that you wrote.

 I don't know what the problem is with you editing it to be in line with the state of the world that the Gm has written is the case and all other players believe is the case. This is text. I need to clarify emotions. When is say I don't know what the problem is I don't mean it accusingly. I mean I genuinely don't know what the problem is. If you can express it we can work out a solution together.
Serendipity
player, 53 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 09:44
  • msg #185

Re: OOC

Irrelevant
This message was last edited by the player at 13:58, Fri 17 Feb 2023.
Monet St. Croix
player, 102 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 11:02
  • msg #186

Re: OOC

Post 81
Cerebro:
Now

Jono had been silent for several minutes of the drive. He was a bit lost in this entire conversation and, as he had become 'used' to communicating telepathically, it hadn't exactly become second nature.


Please note that post 81 is before your posts. This is a post by the GM. We have been driving for several minutes by the time we get to post 82. Your post is after this, not before this.

So the taxi has moved before we get to post 92/93. Which is why we are confused

If post 91 and 92 are flashbacks then everything is fine. It would be helpful if they were labeled as flashbacks but we can live without that. We just want to know the status.

If the status is that 91 and 92 are in the past... That they took place before post 81, there is no longer any confusion except to anyone reading the posts the first time who hasn't read the OOC. That confusion can be removed by a simple edit that expresses they are a flashback.

But that will only help future readers: we're all OK if we now understand that took place in the past and out of normal order

--

As an aside: If I was you I would be pleased that the other players missed Cordelia's actions. You are playing a secretive character with subtle powers. They were so secretive and subtle that the players, never mind the characters, didn't notice them. That's a success for you RP and writing.
Serendipity
player, 54 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 21:55
  • msg #187

Re: OOC

Resolved
Jubilation Lee
player, 88 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 22:05
  • msg #188

Re: OOC

Hey GM didn't you say you have two plot threads? Me and Monet could go after one and Cordelia and Jono could go after the other. That way we can do them both.
Monet St. Croix
player, 103 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 22:09
  • msg #189

Re: OOC

Thank you very much Serenity/Cordelia. Much clearer now!
Jubilation Lee
player, 89 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 22:19
  • msg #190

Re: OOC

Fixed mine too.
Cerebro
GM, 57 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 22:25
  • msg #191

Re: OOC

I am glad you three resolved it among yourselves.

I am a little confused as I still cannot read any updated messages in the current thread-- I don't see an update there since February 11th where Cordelia and Jubilee were having a total impasse.

I was tired of feeling like the bad guy by trying to navigate this. Now that there are four of you, I would ask that you find an out-of-character reason for your characters to in-character continue to work as a unit.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:27, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 90 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 22:32
  • msg #192

Re: OOC

In character Cordelia has been manipulative trying to put us against each other. ooc it's been a shit show. Is there a third C we rope in because ooc and ic we have no reason to work with Cordelia as a unit. I mean that impetus is on Emma right now. Either that or you gotta put us in an apocalyptic storyline where Cordelia can't afford to betray us and we can't afford to dnub her. Because anything normal we can only manage "begrudging" at best.
Cerebro
GM, 58 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 23:16
  • msg #193

Re: OOC

The whole thing though is...

Far as any of you all know, Cordelia was just coming back from vacationing abroad with some boyfriend she picked up in Samoa and almost as soon as they landed, he was kidnapped and you all went out and saved him.

None of you all in character know that she had dealings with Shinobi Shaw and tried to sell off her supposed boyfriend to have him brainwash him into being a Hellfire Club member in exchange for a seat at the big table.

And, really, even if you do know that-- you wouldn't really know if she realized she majorly screwed up and is genuinely interested in being an X-Man or if she is playing a long-con to try to sell you all out to the Hellfire Club.

I mean-- I don't even know, how could you?

All you know is that Emma has completely dismissed her as a responsible person who can be trusted to run her own life. And, frankly, you have played Jubilee as someone who literally hates and distrusts every single adult in her life and is willing to dump them and bolt off half-cocked with no plan or excuse over the most minor of disagreements. So why exactly would she trust Emma's judgement when it comes to a sister who is 10 years younger than her and was in early elementary school when Emma ran away from home?

In character, all you know is that she came running to you all for help and then you all headed off and rescued her boyfriend. Then she came along with you on this trip and she seems to have not been much use against Monet's psycho vampire brother and his minions since she was hiding and cowering the whole time far as you can tell.
Monet St. Croix
player, 104 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 23:32
  • msg #194

Re: OOC

Ah it's all good.

I would of course prefer a less manipulative character than Cordelia. But if that's what Serendipity wants to pay, and is OK with us treating her IC the way Cordelia was treated in the comics (because that's what happens if you act like Cordelia in the comics), it's all good. Or she can play a nicer character and then our interactions will be nicer. All of that is for Cordelia to control. Monet will react appropriately to the words and actions of Cordelia

What do I know?
I saw her interactions with her sister. I saw her try to do mental powers on Jubilations. I've seen her rude interactions with us in the car. Her actions during the fight if anything were sensible, and Monet has no problems with those at all. Not even a little bit. On a relationship score of +/-10, the aggregation of these put her somewhere about -5 on Monet  wanting IC to have anything to do with her. I am more than happy to metagame and set that aside, but it will require RP from Cordelia to mend bridges and have a friendly relationship if that's what she wants.


GM being bad guy
I didn't get that vibe at all. I get you are frustrated and why. I'm sorry if I contributed to that

Summary:
We can easily find an IC reason. As we were discussing earlier we are making our own version of the cartoons. It might start begrudging as Jubilation says, but with some RP we can easily move past that.
Jubilation Lee
player, 91 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 23:44
  • msg #195

Re: OOC

Oh GMs can't see private lines. See Cordelia Private lined me calling Monet a showoff while not (Visibly) doing anything in the battle because it's all psychic related. that's reason to think if her as manipulative in the classic "Mean Girls" way. Not every mean girl is a supervillain not every supervillain is a mean girl. So it very well could lead to.

Jubilee: I knew you were evil!
Cordelia: Bitch please you didn't know I was working with the evil league.
Jubilee: No but I know you wrote that nasty anonymous message on Monet's Facebook!

So in character she has reasons to not like or trust her on a human level. Her physical demonstration of power was invisible so for all Jubilee knows she's just pulling a Mr. Satan about the fight. And Cordelia only defends herself in the OOC but even then she doesn't do it consistently

Me and Monet: explain our posts, the timeline of events what's going on.
Cordelia: I did what I posted I did


Which is not clearing up the confusion she doesn't offer her interpretation of events just monosyllabic brief sentences which are the equivalent of


"What do you want for dinner Chinese or pizza?"
"Yes"

So it's incredibly hard working with her ooc. But ic she's just a mean girl in Jubilees eyes and being from California she's seen a few. It's possible that they all talk out their differences and that opinion changes then the only problems are ooc since ic none of us know about her evil. But she's gotta get the mean girl label off her if you want a true cohesive unit.
Serendipity
player, 55 posts
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 23:45
  • msg #196

Re: OOC

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 194):

Cordelia didn't try using me talking powers on any party members
Cerebro
GM, 59 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 00:19
  • msg #197

Re: OOC

I swear-- I must have missed a whole lot that got posted somehow. Which I just don't get.

I can absolutely see everything you post to one another so this is just leaving be absolutely bewildered. If any of you all send a PM to each other, I can see it.

Because I haven't seen Cordelia do anything to try to harm any other PC. At most she has maybe come across as unhelpful and a bit antagonistic.

I feel like her first big betrayal here is having critical info and not sharing it and trying to run off with Jono because she feels rejected by the other two girls.

And well... it feels a bit odd to criticize her wanting to just absolutely ditch the other two girls for having failed to meet her personal expectations if ditching the adult supervision because he didn't step in and resolve the battle with the bad guy for you is somehow okay.

Furthermore, Emma was supposed to come off as the unreasonable one in her exchange with Cordelia. One should be wondering why she is trying to flex so much control over her own sister. But then she is also totally flexing control over the other students by giving them phones with tracking devices and such.

And, really, in terms of tactics the three of you did pretty much what you needed to against the bad guys. The brawler got in close and pinned down the dangerous members, the blaster hit those who were trying to advance and the sniper finished off one of the more dangerous enemies. So you should all be able to walk away from that feeling that you neatly swept up the bad guys and that you could go take his gang down again in future encounters. The only casualty was Monet's clothes.

So why is it in the face of a significant victory where you should be celebrating because you saved your target, took down the bad guy and got intel on where he is going to hit next-- two of you decided to throw a tantrum and make it a personal goal to just screw everything up for everyone?

I just want to move on to the next scene.
Serendipity
player, 56 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 00:25
  • msg #198

Re: OOC

Cerebro:
I swear-- I must have missed a whole lot that got posted somehow. Which I just don't get.

I can absolutely see everything you post to one another so this is just leaving be absolutely bewildered. If any of you all send a PM to each other, I can see it.

Because I haven't seen Cordelia do anything to try to harm any other PC. At most she has maybe come across as unhelpful and a bit antagonistic.

I feel like her first big betrayal here is having critical info and not sharing it and trying to run off with Jono because she feels rejected by the other two girls.

This was essentially related in the post which was removed due to complaints.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:27, Fri 17 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 92 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 00:32
  • msg #199

Re: OOC

She talked shit on Monet and we didn't see her do anything. Mostly because we were entirely focused on our own fight even if she was holding her head and glowing there's a good chance we would have missed her contribution because she was behind a pillar and we were focused on the fight. But she called Monet a showoff when Jubilee the hormonal teenager who was running on adrenaline fought along side Monet. You can imagine why that'd piss her off. especially with Banshee not doing anything to mentor his wards or having a plan to pick up Jono. He had the foresight of the McAllister family from home alone. So after seeing only herself and Monet on the front lines a teacher who wasn't teaching/a chaperone who wasn't chaperoning. Jubilee is not in a good mood. And Remember Jubilee worked with the Xmen. The X-Men are a three star Michelin restaurant Emma's school is looking like Burger King right now. If I had to imagine this is how the conversation with Xavier/Jean/whoever went.

Old professor: I'm sending you to Emma's school.
Jubilee: Why? I'm a valuable part of the team?!
Old professor: You are that's why I'm sending you. It's fuckin Hogwarts over there. OSHA would have a field day. I don't think the staff could fight a YouTuber at this point they need your help.
Serendipity
player, 57 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 00:56
  • msg #200

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 199):

As you've worked with the Xmen how many hand to hand's did Xavier get involved in?
Jubilation Lee
player, 93 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 01:01
  • msg #201

Re: OOC

Xavier was always getting involved. Usually getting killed, kidnapped, possessed, put into a coma, etc so less powerful people could handle a problem he could fix in thirty seconds. Banshee was.... struggling with Taco bell in the restroom? Emma sent us out so she didn't need to get involved she was at the school she's absolved but all heroes at the airport should have been participating in the scuffle and only ninety percent was.
Serendipity
player, 58 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 01:43
  • msg #202

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 201):

Ah.. that confirms Cordelia's view. He's not as smart ws he thinks he is. Should have more muscle guarding him...
Monet St. Croix
player, 105 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 09:13
  • msg #203

Re: OOC

What you said Cordelia about Prof X...

Now let's get back into working together :)

Whose turn is it to post?
Jono Starsmore
player, 1 post
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 21:59
  • msg #204

Re: OOC

Hello everyone.

Busy couple of days but will read up on what is happening when I get a moment and get to posting.
Jubilation Lee
player, 95 posts
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 22:03
  • msg #205

Re: OOC

Hey jono currently I'm tight with Monet ooc and ic but there's bad blood between me and Cordelia in both and only ic might get resolved. I'd avoid siding with anyone and don't let yourself get drawn into drama just focus on the game and feel free to call everyone out. Monet tries to be balanced but I'm somewhat antagonistic.
Monet St. Croix
player, 107 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 03:08
  • msg #206

Re: OOC

Ah I am hoping that's past now.

Summary:
  • We came to pick you up from the airport
  • My borther decided to eat you and stuck his claw in your chest before we met up
  • We (the three of us) managed to chase him away, although I imagine it hurt like hell
  • He had super powered and seriously scary help that dimensionally ported in, and then they all exited via dimensional gate
  • We decided to 'get the hell out of there' and hired a taxi to get home
  • But the school sent it back to the Airport. And we're just arriving back there

Jono Starsmore
player, 2 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 13:40
  • msg #207

Re: OOC

Thank you both for the honest and neat summaries of both situations. Hopefully we can have some fun.
Cerebro
GM, 60 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 19:20
  • msg #208

Re: OOC

Actually, I imagine the reason Jubilee was encouraged to go to the new school was because she had literally no friends her own age, Wolverine was taking her out on missions against Weapon X psychos, Hydra and mystical ninja where she was being exposed to a ton of butchery, she saw the closest thing to a girl her age die of the legacy virus, and  then she and the others (Monet, Husk, Synch, Blink) got kidnapped by techno-aliens together so they could try to learn how to turn mutants into robots.

Then Xavier and Magneto died and left Cyclops in charge.

The staff here is quite capable, even if, outside Banshee, entirely composed of ex-villains. Which is not ideal, but at least it isn't just two people and they aren't villainous in the same way so its not like they are all going to go bad together.
Jubilation Lee
player, 96 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 19:29
  • msg #209

Re: OOC

Well let's get us all back to school where we find out Banshee was told to not interfere unless absolutely necessary because the school wanted to gauge our skills. and get Banshee out of hot water.
Monet St. Croix
player, 108 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 21:29
  • msg #210

Re: OOC

I don't think Banshee has superspeed or anything. I suspect it would all have been over by the time he could have got there: the whole think lasted less than a minute I think, and airports are quite big. We as players knew there would be 'a thing' there, but as Banshee I would regard an airport as one of the less likely places for bad things to happen: there is so much security

I didn't know Xavier had died by the way. I knew he wasn't involved anymore but didn't know why. Is that 'canon'?
Jubilation Lee
player, 97 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 21:32
  • msg #211

Re: OOC

He's died several times. In one universe mystique killed him because of the death of nightcrawler.
Cerebro
GM, 61 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 22:21
  • msg #212

Re: OOC

The whole Onslaught thing happened within months of Generation X launching, not all that long after Age of Apocalypse. I just moved it up a few months so that we didn't need to worry about it disrupting things and also kind of put the "new school" in sort of an uneasy position.

Honestly, by the time Banshee did get there, you all had the bad guy pinned down. Even after he summoned reinforcements, had he started screaming it would have disrupted your plan of action. None of you were ever in mortal danger, so he decided to let you all handle it.

As far as he was concerned-- this should be an easy thing. You have a boy coming from overseas, in the states for the first time, and probably feeling pretty low about himself after having blown off half his face-- have three pretty girls welcome him both to the school and to the U.S. in general.

But as the GM-- this was obviously going to be where your main baddie introduces himself and you get a minor win. Since you were all going to get a minor win no matter how badly you botched things, I didn't want authority figures involved.
Jubilation Lee
player, 98 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 22:24
  • msg #213

Re: OOC

Jubilee had time to get in fight grab jono go backdrop jono off go back again fight some more and get them to flee with Monet. Girl must have had rocket roller skates. Lol
Monet St. Croix
player, 109 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 22:27
  • msg #214

Re: OOC

What you said about Banshee. This was a simple 'pick up' in a 'safe place'. And by the time he got there it was over. I wonder if he knows what actually happened. Does he have 'super hearing?'.
Jubilation Lee
player, 99 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 22:32
  • msg #215

Re: OOC

Banshee: Huh wonder why everyone's rushing out the building? Probably a taco truck nearby mmmmm tacos *wanders off to look for tacos*
Cerebro
GM, 62 posts
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 23:55
  • msg #216

Re: OOC

Monet brings up something else that I was trying to get at earlier.

If I set a scene at the school, that doesn't mean you can instantly transport yourself to literally anywhere on the school grounds to accomplish any task within the time it takes someone else to speak one sentence.

If the scene takes place at an airport that is roughly half a kilometer long-- where I said there are plenty of places where you can go shopping or get some food or otherwise express your character before getting to the gate where you are supposed to pick up the new student-- that is meant to be a large area.

Banshee was sitting out there in the parking lot waiting for you girls to escort the swooning Brit out of the building and drive you back to the school. By the time he saw people running out of the building and could start making his way against the crowd, you'd all arrived and were already winning.

I really don't get this idea that he should have caused hundreds of thousands of dollars of property damage to arrive any sooner than that-- so crashing through a ceiling or some shit.

Even Monet's choice of arriving by super speed flight was something I pointed out could potentially cause extreme damage and injury if used inconsiderately. And Banshee's flight ability directly relies on him using a sonic scream that would likely caused horrible damage to everyone in his path. So he could only make there, 500+ meters, against the crowd at foot speed. And by the time he got there, him screaming at things would have done more harm than good.

Seriously-- what is your issue with being determined to ascribe the worst possible explanations and motives to all NPCs not only OOC, but carrying that shit IC and having your character take the most unreasonable and radical actions in response?

How am I supposed to deal with someone who half the time wants me to hold their hand and walk them through the character development stuff and when it comes to the battle stuff wants me to have the GM NPC step in and just solve it for them without any danger or effort and if not served that will go out of their way to disrupt things as much as possible?

We've been dealing with the fall out of all this for weeks now and at this point and I am not enjoying it. I could be logging in every day, but I now dread it.

On one hand-- it is nice that the players are actually engaged as opposed to my previous experiences of key players just vanishing and leaving everything stuck in a rut. On the other hand, I feel like Monet is the only one aside from possibly our newest addition who actually wants this to succeed as opposed to just burning everything down.
Jubilation Lee
player, 100 posts
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 00:18
  • msg #217

Re: OOC

Ok we want to resolve this. I'll say a simple answer. If we are being escorted to a location by someone like a teacher. When you're doing you're posts for the bad guys we're fighting, the tsa agents interfering, etc. Just let us know what the teacher is doing at the moment. By letting us know he's unaware of the conflict or that on his side of the building there isn't a panic we get a scale of both time and distance our fight felt like a full blown ten to twenty minute fight. With some more details it'd be clearer it was quicker. Like I as a player envisioned people rushing to get out and him seeing that and ignoring it. With a little more clarity like on out front he's chatting up some flight attendant off her shift we know the conflict isn't "loud" enough for people around him to notice. It's way too easy to use ooc reasons "he's not there cause the story isn't about him" when you can use IC reasons. Help up envision the scale of our conflicts. Because apparently this epic battle was more like a Karen that won't put her mask on in terms of how big a deal it is. Nobody out front was panicking there wasnt anything to go on. I just feel it'd be easier to paint a picture. Though maybe it's our responsibility as players to ask ooc what's going on with so and so not being in the scene so you can include an in game explanation.
Serendipity
player, 59 posts
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 00:52
  • msg #218

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 217):

Om... really Lee, what are you upto? First you complain about Cordellia now the GM. If you want to direct a game; you have option of starting one.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:54, Sun 19 Feb 2023.
Jubilation Lee
player, 101 posts
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 01:00
  • msg #219

Re: OOC

I already did. Not a generation x one but I'm building a marvel multiverse as my DC Multiverse wraps up it's last big universal arc. The new marvel one is going to revolve around mutant Spiderman, Jubilee, Iceman, Kate Bishop, and Tony Stark's daughter Rescue in San Francisco
Serendipity
player, 60 posts
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 01:02
  • msg #220

Re: OOC

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 219):

Good to read.
Monet St. Croix
player, 110 posts
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 01:44
  • msg #221

Re: OOC

Let's move on! Banshee's an OK guy. Established in the comics, and here. Sure he could have done better: we all could. Monet is going to be having guilty dreams about how she messed up in that fight...

Now come and post with me IC and chat nicely in OOC.
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