What Jubilation said... Sounds good to me

It was never my intention to rewind anything.

Is there any possible way that everyone who is playing could get on the most positive possible page with working with every other player to get to the next goal?

Please review messages 67 , 68, 81, 91 and 92 in the student abroad thread and tell me what is going on chronologically. if there is no rational or logical explanation I propose someone or something rewound time making 91 and 92 work.

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 174):

There was no backtracking Cordelia posted her actions in the uber they are in. Which included the Driver where they were going
This message was last edited by the player at 01:56, Thu 16 Feb 2023.

91 and 92 involved her getting in the Uber except the evidence shows she was already in it. So unless you're playing two separate characters how did you get in a vehicle, have it drive towards the school, have it driving in the road, then get in the vehicle? You got into the vehicle twice. That's only possible with time hijinks.

In reply to Jubilation Lee (msg # 176):

She did get into an uber, once at the airport approx the same time the other passengers did. Cordelia then Directed the driver where take them.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:18, Thu 16 Feb 2023.

You

Got

Into

The

Uber

Twice.

Your "I get into the uber" at post 91 and 92 happens afte we've already established you got into it when we did and jono was already riding with us.so unless jubilee and Monet are riding with mystique and mystiques twin sister mystique two electric bluegaloo you have been with us for a couple dozen posts. So getting in the Uber in post 91 & 92 is redundant, we got into a car with a shapeshifter back i! The 67 post area, or someone rewound everything that happened between post 91 and 92 back to 67 and 68 those are the only options

Cordelia posted getting into the uber once; you've missed the point.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:55, Thu 16 Feb 2023.

We have been driving for a while talking. Strike through be damned the gm posted we were driving. We posted sitting in the car talking as the car drove. And jono has been talking to people in the car. Three out of the four people in this game has a consensus Jubilee, Monet, and Jono are in an Uber minutes away from the airport by now. Three of four aka the majority. So you did NOT just get in the Uber with Jono you got in Banshees car with Banshee if you got in anywhere. And god knows who the FUCK we've been talking to as we drive. You haven't paid an iota of attention to what has been going on. So unless we rectify this situation by saying there's a time rewind or shapeshifters YOU DUN GOOFED. Because your getting into a vehicle with a person neither of which is at the airport. Your getting in a ghost Uber with a ghost Jono OOOOOH SPOOOOOKY!
This message was last edited by the player at 03:03, Thu 16 Feb 2023.

I think I posted that I was totally confused with how Cordelia could post getting into the taxi after she had been chatting in the taxi.

• Was it a different taxi?
• Was it teleportation?
• Was it bilocation?
• Was it a flashback?

If it was the 'getting into the taxi' that we were in, then it's a flashback. Because the GM had posted we were several minutes into the drive and you chatted with us / touched Jubilations hand after that post.

I can see that Jubilation too was deeply confused too

It's not the end of the world, it's just a 'posted chatting in the taxi', 'posted getting into the taxi'... huh? sort of thing. Just make it a flashback and there are absolutely no confusions/problems. Flashbacks are great. Happen in the comics all the time

Your right it's probably just easier to ignore inconsistencies and keep doing the scene our way and if Cordelia addresses someone phrasing it like she just got into the car we ignore it and act like she said it ten minutes into the car trip it's still the same question that needs to be answered. I can save my outrage till something like we irrevocably kill some villain who's dead forever were back at the car thinking about the repercussions of taking a life and then Cordelia suddenly deflects the killing blow even though the character has been dead for twenty minutes. When it heavily affects the plot then I can get heated.

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 181):

2 out of 5 is not a consensus.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:11, Thu 16 Feb 2023.

The sky is blue is a true statement and irrelevant. 2 out of 5 is not a consensus is also a true statement but I don't understand the relevance.

There were three players and a gm at the point of confusion. Two of the players and the Gm had posted that monet, Jono and jubilation were in a taxi. The Gm (not the players) wrote we were minutes into the drive

You interacted with us and both players thought you were in the car and said words to you which you IC reacted to. For example you reached out and touched jubilation

Then you wrote that back at the airport you got into the car

Hence our confusion. Which we have expressed

I feel you think we are fighting you or opposing you. I certainly am not. I am trying to work out how to write my next post. I am confused about the state of the world and asking for clarity

I've never had this difficulty in asking for clarity before. Quite often I go 'oops my bad I will edit'. In this case that's hard because three of us (gm jubilation and myself) would have to edit multiple posts to be in line with a post that you wrote.

 I don't know what the problem is with you editing it to be in line with the state of the world that the Gm has written is the case and all other players believe is the case. This is text. I need to clarify emotions. When is say I don't know what the problem is I don't mean it accusingly. I mean I genuinely don't know what the problem is. If you can express it we can work out a solution together.

Irrelevant
This message was last edited by the player at 13:58, Fri 17 Feb 2023.

Post 81


Please note that post 81 is before your posts. This is a post by the GM. We have been driving for several minutes by the time we get to post 82. Your post is after this, not before this.

So the taxi has moved before we get to post 92/93. Which is why we are confused

If post 91 and 92 are flashbacks then everything is fine. It would be helpful if they were labeled as flashbacks but we can live without that. We just want to know the status.

If the status is that 91 and 92 are in the past... That they took place before post 81, there is no longer any confusion except to anyone reading the posts the first time who hasn't read the OOC. That confusion can be removed by a simple edit that expresses they are a flashback.

But that will only help future readers: we're all OK if we now understand that took place in the past and out of normal order

--

As an aside: If I was you I would be pleased that the other players missed Cordelia's actions. You are playing a secretive character with subtle powers. They were so secretive and subtle that the players, never mind the characters, didn't notice them. That's a success for you RP and writing.

Resolved

Hey GM didn't you say you have two plot threads? Me and Monet could go after one and Cordelia and Jono could go after the other. That way we can do them both.

Thank you very much Serenity/Cordelia. Much clearer now!

Fixed mine too.

I am glad you three resolved it among yourselves.

I am a little confused as I still cannot read any updated messages in the current thread-- I don't see an update there since February 11th where Cordelia and Jubilee were having a total impasse.

I was tired of feeling like the bad guy by trying to navigate this. Now that there are four of you, I would ask that you find an out-of-character reason for your characters to in-character continue to work as a unit.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:27, Thu 16 Feb 2023.

In character Cordelia has been manipulative trying to put us against each other. ooc it's been a shit show. Is there a third C we rope in because ooc and ic we have no reason to work with Cordelia as a unit. I mean that impetus is on Emma right now. Either that or you gotta put us in an apocalyptic storyline where Cordelia can't afford to betray us and we can't afford to dnub her. Because anything normal we can only manage "begrudging" at best.

The whole thing though is...

Far as any of you all know, Cordelia was just coming back from vacationing abroad with some boyfriend she picked up in Samoa and almost as soon as they landed, he was kidnapped and you all went out and saved him.

None of you all in character know that she had dealings with Shinobi Shaw and tried to sell off her supposed boyfriend to have him brainwash him into being a Hellfire Club member in exchange for a seat at the big table.

And, really, even if you do know that-- you wouldn't really know if she realized she majorly screwed up and is genuinely interested in being an X-Man or if she is playing a long-con to try to sell you all out to the Hellfire Club.

I mean-- I don't even know, how could you?

All you know is that Emma has completely dismissed her as a responsible person who can be trusted to run her own life. And, frankly, you have played Jubilee as someone who literally hates and distrusts every single adult in her life and is willing to dump them and bolt off half-cocked with no plan or excuse over the most minor of disagreements. So why exactly would she trust Emma's judgement when it comes to a sister who is 10 years younger than her and was in early elementary school when Emma ran away from home?

In character, all you know is that she came running to you all for help and then you all headed off and rescued her boyfriend. Then she came along with you on this trip and she seems to have not been much use against Monet's psycho vampire brother and his minions since she was hiding and cowering the whole time far as you can tell.

Ah it's all good.

I would of course prefer a less manipulative character than Cordelia. But if that's what Serendipity wants to pay, and is OK with us treating her IC the way Cordelia was treated in the comics (because that's what happens if you act like Cordelia in the comics), it's all good. Or she can play a nicer character and then our interactions will be nicer. All of that is for Cordelia to control. Monet will react appropriately to the words and actions of Cordelia

What do I know?
I saw her interactions with her sister. I saw her try to do mental powers on Jubilations. I've seen her rude interactions with us in the car. Her actions during the fight if anything were sensible, and Monet has no problems with those at all. Not even a little bit. On a relationship score of +/-10, the aggregation of these put her somewhere about -5 on Monet  wanting IC to have anything to do with her. I am more than happy to metagame and set that aside, but it will require RP from Cordelia to mend bridges and have a friendly relationship if that's what she wants.


GM being bad guy
I didn't get that vibe at all. I get you are frustrated and why. I'm sorry if I contributed to that

Summary:
We can easily find an IC reason. As we were discussing earlier we are making our own version of the cartoons. It might start begrudging as Jubilation says, but with some RP we can easily move past that.

Oh GMs can't see private lines. See Cordelia Private lined me calling Monet a showoff while not (Visibly) doing anything in the battle because it's all psychic related. that's reason to think if her as manipulative in the classic "Mean Girls" way. Not every mean girl is a supervillain not every supervillain is a mean girl. So it very well could lead to.

Jubilee: I knew you were evil!
Cordelia: Bitch please you didn't know I was working with the evil league.
Jubilee: No but I know you wrote that nasty anonymous message on Monet's Facebook!

So in character she has reasons to not like or trust her on a human level. Her physical demonstration of power was invisible so for all Jubilee knows she's just pulling a Mr. Satan about the fight. And Cordelia only defends herself in the OOC but even then she doesn't do it consistently

Me and Monet: explain our posts, the timeline of events what's going on.
Cordelia: I did what I posted I did


Which is not clearing up the confusion she doesn't offer her interpretation of events just monosyllabic brief sentences which are the equivalent of


"What do you want for dinner Chinese or pizza?"
"Yes"

So it's incredibly hard working with her ooc. But ic she's just a mean girl in Jubilees eyes and being from California she's seen a few. It's possible that they all talk out their differences and that opinion changes then the only problems are ooc since ic none of us know about her evil. But she's gotta get the mean girl label off her if you want a true cohesive unit.

In reply to Monet St. Croix (msg # 194):

Cordelia didn't try using me talking powers on any party members