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Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

Posted by CaptainHellrazorFor group 0
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 31 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 04:53
  • msg #1

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

It will be a little while before you guys are involved in ship to ship combat outside of when you get to fire canons so I have a bit of time to hash out those rules.  i have a basic set now just about ready to play test, anyone interested in testing, please post here and i will set up some scenarios.  This might even end up being used as some class examples at the academy :)
Aaron Fauconberg
player, 5 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 05:19
  • msg #2

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

I'm game.

I was looking at the ship info in the other thread, and I was curious how accurate are the stats of guns, crew, etc.  I used my new favorite tool for doing research, especially historical research:  ChatGPT.  I really recommend it for anyone doing any research for characters, because it always gives a good, probably correct answer.  You wouldn't want to count on it for serious academic research, but for our sort of purposes, it's great.  Here is what I asked (in bold) and its responses.

BTW, Our illustrious GM is spot on on his stats.  (I might argue that the smaller ships should be more maneuverable than the larger ones, but since you have them all at 3, maybe you just haven't worked out that stat, yet.)

quote:
Describe the largest battleship in the British navy in 1797
ChatGPT
The largest battleship in the British Royal Navy in 1797 was HMS "Victory," a first-rate ship of the line. Launched in 1765, she had three masts and was armed with as many as 104 guns. Her design was based on dimensions of 186 feet (57 m) in length, with a 52-foot (16 m) breadth. She was a substantial presence in the navy and participated in several important naval battles, most notably the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 where Admiral Nelson was killed.

The ship was constructed primarily from oak and featured three gun decks. Her armaments generally consisted of 32-pounder and 12-pounder guns, as well as carronades for shorter-range engagements. She was manned by a crew of about 850 men.

HMS "Victory" served as the flagship for various admirals and is one of the most famous warships in naval history. As of my last update in September 2021, she was preserved as a museum ship at Portsmouth, England.

what's the breakdown of that crew? 
ChatGPT
The crew complement of a first-rate ship of the line like HMS "Victory" was a complex organization designed to handle various aspects of the ship's operation, from navigation to armament. Here's a general breakdown:

Officers: Around 20-30

1 Captain
Several Lieutenants
Master (senior warrant officer responsible for navigation)
Purser (in charge of supplies)
Surgeon
Chaplain
Various midshipmen (trainee officers)
Seamen: Approx. 550-600

Able Seamen: Experienced sailors proficient in general seamanship
Ordinary Seamen: Less experienced, but still capable of various tasks
Landsmen: Inexperienced sailors, often just starting out
Marines: Around 100-150

Used for boarding actions, security, and to aid in the operation of the ship's guns.
Warrant Officers: 10-20

Boatswain: Responsible for sails, rigging, and the ship's hull
Gunner: In charge of the ship's armament
Carpenter: Took care of ship repairs and structural integrity
Cook, etc.
Petty Officers: 40-50

Included roles like Quartermasters (assisted with navigation), Master-at-Arms (ship's policeman), and others.
Various Servants and Boys: Around 30-40

Captain's Clerk
Servants for the officers
Powder Monkeys: Often young boys responsible for transporting gunpowder from the magazine to the gun decks during battle.
Supernumeraries: Variable number

These could be passengers, prisoners, or other non-crew members onboard for various reasons.
These numbers are approximations and could vary based on specific needs, the period, and other factors.

This message was last edited by the player at 05:33, Sat 26 Aug 2023.
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 32 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 05:53
  • msg #3

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

I'm sorry but I am not a fan of any AI in an RPG.  I don't mind if you use it to create a short back ground etc but if you intend using it for every aspect of the game, well that is no longer you playing, it is the AI.
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 33 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 05:59
  • msg #4

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

There are quite a few more ships types I will be adding and most ships will have similar Maneuver ratings, maybe the occasional 2 or 4.  But I am starting with the smallest ships and working my way up to so if the rules are lethal enough, or not :)
Adrian Hyde
player, 6 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 06:16
  • msg #5

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

The table has been removed.

How what is the breakdown of gun calibres for each ship classification.
Aaron Fauconberg
player, 7 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 06:22
  • msg #6

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

CaptainHellrazor:
I'm sorry but I am not a fan of any AI in an RPG.  I don't mind if you use it to create a short back ground etc but if you intend using it for every aspect of the game, well that is no longer you playing, it is the AI.

I totally agree.  It's a great tool for research and information, but not for making decisions about a character.
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 34 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 06:37
  • msg #7

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

I will put up some gun details on the HMS Boudica in the Game Wiki
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 35 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 07:14
  • msg #8

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

I moved the ship details to a thread for players who want to try ship combat.
Adrian Hyde
player, 8 posts
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 07:29
  • msg #9

Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

The gun tonnage is considerably eg 24×32lb = 1536 tons
This message was last edited by the player at 17:34, Sun 27 Aug 2023.
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 93 posts
Tue 17 Oct 2023
at 03:37
  • msg #10

Re: Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

Adrian Hyde:
The table has been removed.

How what is the breakdown of gun calibres for each ship classification.


The game will use three calibre's of guns, 32 pounders and 24 pounders will only be used on ships with two or more gun decks with 32 pounders at the bottom and 24 pounders in the middle, upper decks will use 12 or 18 pouders (all small guns will use the same stats for now).  The heavier guns have modifiers on the damage table.

Still looking for volunteers for ship Vs ship combat testing :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:38, Tue 17 Oct 2023.
James Hamilton
player, 46 posts
STA 45 Currrent STA 45
Tue 17 Oct 2023
at 07:53
  • msg #11

Re: Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

Volunteer here
CaptainHellrazor
GM, 94 posts
Tue 17 Oct 2023
at 12:00
  • msg #12

Re: Volunteers to Beta Test Ship vs Ship Combat (OOC)

You should have access to that thread now.
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