In reply to DM (msg # 548):

No, of course, I just knew that a few of us had moontouched weapons, and thought people would be using them as needed.

People, when you're doing magic, you need to tell me WHAT spell you are using, not just what you think is happening.

I'm starting to see results I can't explain again.

And they might. They just haven't, yet. Could be a time zone thing.

I simply reported that things went dark so you folks would realize it was the only light source  in use at the time.

We can assume that the new folks will find their gear in short order. It will, however, take Yataria a good 5 minutes to get her armor on.

In reply to DM (msg # 553):
Unless the boat is massive I suspect we'd have a search completed in 5 minutes. Can she catch up to the group when she's ready?
This message was last edited by the player at 08:01, Sat 03 Feb.

I apologize.  I don't know where I got the idea he knew Light.

Oliseo, as I posted yesterday, you need to tell me what spell you are casting. Otherwise, frankly, it hasn't been cast, as I have no way to adjudicate it.

I have no idea, but that means splitting the party to find out, and her searching on her lonesome hoping to find you. Probably not a good idea.

And the Nightspider is fairly good sized, yes. Nor did any of you see an Umber hulk on deck during ship combat. They are a lot bigger than neogi, you'd have noticed.

Hmm, you're right, sorry, I thought it was obvious. Going to PL it from now on.

That spell is in your book, but you don't have it memorized, nor is it a Ritual Spell.

And that's why it wasn't obvious. And that's why I have you folks tell me what you're trying to cast.

Needless to say, that spell, too, was not cast.

I actually had it memorized. You asked me if I wanted to swap it with Protection from Evil/Good because I did not have the material component, and I agreed.

Please remember to update my character sheet next time, to avoid such issues.

And please remember to notify me of errors on your character sheet when I ask you to, to avoid such issues.

Or any other time. Verifying accuracy is on you. I do make the occasional mistake when dealing with 6 or 7 different sheets. You're only dealing with one.

And apparently you haven't looked it over yet.

So, we done with the snark?

I actually have, and noticed several other things. I assumed since you wanted to micromanage everything to the point of not trusting us to keep track of our own sheets, and considering you've been quite busy with everything, you'd get around to fixing that, so I didn't feel like pointing it out, thought you'd get around it at your leisure.

Mate, don't dish it if you can't take it, though. I mean, sure, there's plenty of errors going around, and plenty of people play it fast and loose- and it clearly isn't your cup of tea, I get it. But when you're blunt to the point of rudeness, from what I have seen so far, I would have at least expected you not minding when someone did the same to you, because that clearly wasn't snark.

he's right, I'll let too much of the ...well, just too much of the things that keep coming up in this game get to me, and it's affecting my tolerance levels. I mean, I post to let me know what spells you're casting, and he immediately ignores me, then tells me he didn't think it was actually necessary.

That's, unfortunately not a particularly isolated instance.

Consider this the 2 week notice to game deletion, and my apologies to Yataria who never got a chance to use the character.

if things continue as they have been, I can only assume my temper will get shorter as I keep repeating the same things, and then somehow get blamed because no one reads what I post. or just decide that the posts don't apply to them, as Oliseo just did.

Yeah, it's best to delete the game if it gets to your emotional level. In my own part, I say sorry for times when I missed what you wrote, but also part Oliseo was correct that if you cannot update the sheets fast enough (or forget) it leads to problems as players assume the sheet has been edited. But I also understand you must have faced awful players who edited sheets without permission or did some sneaky/scummy stuff with the sheets. So understand why you wanted strict control and seem to have micro-managing tendencies (but was willing to learn and adjust to your style cause the game was interesting to me).

For the future consider that even if the main sheet is locked, there is a thread where players can post what spells they have prepared for a given day (same for any resources spent from class like battlemaster dice rolls).

Anycase, better fortunes and gaming for everyone!

And keeping players honest gets me accused of micromanaging. It somehow ignores the fact that the players, Him included, needed to be kept honest.

It's not his fault for playing fast and loose, it's mine for catching him. That gets old after awhile, and when it keeps coming up, it wears thin.

Yes, I make mistakes. but folks, players do to. I'm not sure why the DM is at fault when he notices.

Some people blame others more than take responsibility for mistakes they make. Including even when they are caught cheating (seen it happen in Rpol over the years large variety of drama of both player and DM cheating). For context, DM cheating is when the player performs an action and GM does not interfere with it (like buying a healing potion from the store and everyone else visiting the same store), GM then deletes the player's posting for a healing potion but not touching other players posts. Or delete posts where player asks questions OOC from GM regarding rules and GM acting question was never asked.

Overall, a large variety of people in Rpol so on my end you're not at fault here DM. You just have above-average micro-management in your game which can throw some players off guard while others who aim cheat find it annoying. Some players who do not aim to cheat can find such high-level micro-management offensive cause it indicates DM does not trust players at all.

I don't. I've been burned too often.

I manage things how I do to prevent the cheating that has happened before in my games. That's the point: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Each and every thing I do is to address a previous problem. Even the secret rolls on the die roller was because players were passing messages in the memo line to meta game combat. A player bragged about it.

In reply to DM (msg # 567):

Uf, that's rather disgusting behavior to bypass your rulings which are meant to minimize metagame. If folks do not like that method they could leave the game (or avoid joining if it's known in advance) rather than just cheat.

Edit; I now just realized the level of micro-management you do is usually found in player vs player games; like arena games or campaigns where the entire goal is to fight other players (at best temporally ally with them).
This message was last edited by the player at 19:48, Sat 03 Feb.

I've been trying to play within the lines delineated by the DM and working with the limitations as specified can sometimes get difficult, so it does take some flexibility to keep on top of them. I believe this is the second Spelljammer game of yours I've started in that has been cancelled in a short time, and I was really hoping this one would play on as I've been wanting to enjoy the new D&D in space. Feel free to message me if another one starts up. I just wanna play! :D

I'm going to need to take some time to decompress, then figure out a way to keep one of these alive. I don't have problems when it's sea or land, but for some reason Wildspace games don't seem to last. Players can't get in the feel for the setting (I literally had a character built around a forest in space...still trying to figure that one out) and I can't seem to find the right way to set the scene.

Well, I sort of can, sort of, but it requires more reading than most folks have the patience for.

I'm sorry you have been having so much difficulty with Spelljammer.   I, myself, am not perfect in conveying what I am trying to do, or with knowing RAW, or posting within parameters, but I try.

Honestly the amount you manage things is not that much compared to some GMs I have had here. You do it out of trying to combat cheating but it is less than a typical autistic or ocd gm where everything needs to be exactly so. You just need the right players. My other 5e game has a dm that gets upset about too many or too little spaces in your character sheet because it upsets the formatting. I was perfectly fine with what I’ve seen so far.

If this does get back up and running a friend of mine made a drawing of the character.

A Yazirian!